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4SPEED427


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I think there was a discussion here recently about availability of a rear antenna on our 69 full size cars.

I found this in the assembly manual tonight as I was preparing to send one to someone.

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Oh, I might have saved that a little big!

I'll see what I can do...

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Nice!
A Canadian assembly manual, I've had no luck finding one for 65.
The 65 US Chevrolet assembly manual doesn't provide any better measurements, no idea what P.V. is all about?
The 65 accessory installation manual is no more help either.
A template is what's needed, but the hole was already there for my car.
It was butchery, but thankfully under size with an aftermarket antenna, so a cone shaped grinding stone on a drill rounded it cleanly for an NOS kit install.
The service antenna bezels require the notch at 12-o-clock unlike 65 factory installations, so something to be aware of before you notch
out as per the assembly manual.

I see 69 has it at 12-o-clock from the factory, but I don't know about 66-68.
Service kits also lack the cable to trans tunnel clips/fasteners, and the metal shield for the cable under the rear seat found on factory installs for 65, but other years?
No rear antenna for am/fm radios either, too much loss with the long cable for 65, but other years?

 

 



-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Monday 29th of January 2018 12:36:03 AM

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I just noticed the date on there, 2-15-68. They sure worked ahead, but I guess they have to.

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This 2+2 has one.



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My 2+2 had it. Always liked the rear antenna, looked like it belonged there with that cool rakeback. Up front always looked kind of an afterthought imop.

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My 2+2 has a factory installed one.  Had it off for thed paint job and indeed the notch is straight ahead.  btw, they should have used a better re-enforcement, everyone I've ever seen including mine has sheetmetal distortion caused by movement in the antenna. 

 

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notice that the comment from the assembly manual on having the notch reversed 180 degrees is from the end of October, two months into production, did they change the actual punching during the production run or was it just an after the fact paper work correction to reflect what was already happening and the panel stamping plant?

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North wrote:

My 2+2 has a factory installed one.  Had it off for thed paint job and indeed the notch is straight ahead.  btw, they should have used a better re-enforcement, everyone I've ever seen including mine has sheetmetal distortion caused by movement in the antenna. 

 

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 And I withnessed many times somebody that don't own the car trying to ''correct'' the angle by putting the antenna straight up!!!



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409Safari wrote:
North wrote:

My 2+2 has a factory installed one.  Had it off for thed paint job and indeed the notch is straight ahead.  btw, they should have used a better re-enforcement, everyone I've ever seen including mine has sheetmetal distortion caused by movement in the antenna. 

 

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 And I withnessed many times somebody that don't own the car trying to ''correct'' the angle by putting the antenna straight up!!!

 Mine got vandalized straightend once, and I was actually able to get a GM replacement back in 77'. Ah...the old days.



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1981 I parked my 4 speed 66 Grande Parisienne in a Winnipeg residential area over night. Next morning the power antenna was bent at 90 degrees. I was so mad, mostly at myself. Of course I couldn't get a GM replacement.... The Canadian Pontiac power antenna was straight up, not the same as US.

And it was my own stupid fault for not retracting it.



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Carl Stevenson wrote:



And it was my own stupid fault for not retracting it.

 If I remember well, the electric antenna on my cousin's Cadillac, retracted when you turn off the radio.....

 

.... (or/and ignition switch)..... 



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I think you are right about the Caddys but alas it was not on the Pontiacs. It was a manually operated electric antenna. Sadly...

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Monday 29th of January 2018 06:01:47 PM

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Some antenna trivia that may apply to Canadian Pontiac too , for 65 Canadian full size Chevy the antenna nut is black plastic on assembly line installs and Canadian part numbered service kits,
whereas US versions are chrome plated pot metal in both cases.
The 65 factory rear mounting is cumbersome with a ground "ring" (rectangle actually), used in conjunction with a reinforcement washer with a little ground claw tacked to the edge of it.
65 service kits and 66 factory installs replaced these two pieces with one, it's stamped "W" for Ward/Ancoa.
The disc is on the small side as mentioned, compared to this 67 Camaro example.
Here's the factory 65 rear antenna install cable shield and clips mentioned previously, and the 65 factory notch NOT at 12-o-clock which means it doesn't work for service kit bezel installs.



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It's interesting you brought this up. I had never thought about it before but I don't think there is a manual rear antenna offered on a 66 full size Canadian Pontiac. I think the choices are manual front or power rear, and as was mentioned somewhere on this forum recently, only a front antenna with the AM/FM radio.

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Oshawa65SS wrote:

Some antenna trivia that may apply to Canadian Pontiac too , for 65 Canadian full size Chevy the antenna nut is black plastic on assembly line installs and Canadian part numbered service kits
 

 Yes, my '64 Parisienne has this black plastic nut (mine is cracked, but I have a replacement):

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This early seventies hot rodder makes a good use of an angle antenna mast.........sorry for the derail..................


 

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Oshawa65SS wrote:


The 65 US Chevrolet assembly manual doesn't provide any better measurements, no idea what P.V. is all about?8.

Been looking at installing twin rear antennas on my 64 SD and I find a measurement (?) with PV beside it in the 64 Chevelle Asssembly manual. Anyone able to decode PV?

 



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In 69 Canadian ponchos there was no power antenna option, just rear manual option.

Several of my American cars have power antennas. The Canadian rear manual is raked 15-20 degrees rearward from vertical, the American power rear is more like 30 degrees.

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Pontiacanada wrote:
Yes, my '64 Parisienne has this black plastic nut (mine is cracked, but I have a replacement):

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-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 06:18:36 AM

 That same black plastic nut I have doesn't fit over the fat mast and antenna body with the bowtie emblem on my car.

It's a Chevy 986103 service antenna kit.

Looks like I need a Canadian version antenna instead.



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