How many of you guys lend out your tools? I lend mine out to very few. Have a few buds that borrow all the time and I get it back the way it left and if they break it they buy me a new one. But have also lent out tools to a few that never return them until I go knocking on their door looking for it or I get most of it back...except the broken part!! Always want to help a guy in a bind....but when they don't bring them back or break them without replacing them...it just cost me! Went to grab a tool tonight and remembered that my neighbour had borrowed it,broke it and not replace it...no more lending to him! Just think it's common courtesy to replace (if broken) or return when your done!
-- Edited by hawkeye5766 on Friday 7th of December 2018 02:27:08 AM
100% agree. Make the replacement offer, if its something not worth replacing it is my decision to let you off the hook and say it doesn't need replacing.
Loaned my rusty old pickup to a relative, he and son in law were hauling to the dump. Truck came back and he parked it in an odd place where passenger side door was hidden. I went to use it the next day, big dent in the door where it likely got blown open in the wind, door wouldn't open more than a foot. Claim was it was like that when he picked it up............. He doesn't borrow anything any more.
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63 Parisienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. 1963- Pontiac top selling car in Canada
Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic
My older brother asked to borrow stuff a year ago. I felt bad, but I told him I don't borrow or lend ... my rule. Makes life easier.
If I have a spare or upgrade something, I will give the extra one to someone that needs it. If a person needs a hand, I will bring tools that I have and help.
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Prince Edward Island
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
I don't lend stuff anymore for that very reason, unless it's a good friend that I can trust.
Too many times have lent stuff and get it back broken or just don't get it back. Then sometimes it's just the lack of respect.
When we moved into our neighbourhood, I bought a brand spanking shiny new step ladder. Neighbour came over, asked to borrow it for a couple of days - no problem, I said. A couple of weeks went by and I needed to use my ladder. Yup, I'll bring it over he said. Couple more days went by, no ladder. So I drove by his house and saw it sitting outside in the rain, covered in drywall spackling and paint. So I grabbed it and took it home. That was the last time I lent anything to anybody who I didn't know very well. The ladder is still fine and usable, but the principle of the thing ticked me off. What made it worse is that I really like to take care of my stuff and why spend my money on stuff just to let somebody else abuse it...
Worse scenario is years ago my ex boss lent his car to a friend who got into an accident with it and wrote it off. He didn't have collision on it, and the friend didn't pay to replace it, so he was out of a car. The worse part of it is that it affected his insurance rates for years afterwards.
I had a different car trailer when I was 25, and I loaned it out to a guy I knew, let's call him "W" and his brother is "P". He hauled a way-too-big tractor on it and bent the axles. And when it came back,the light wiring was in need of repair as well.
I didn't say anything to him but I did mention it to my brother and word got out. "W" never said a word but days later "P" came to me and wanted to make it right. "P" wasn't even involved with using the trailer but still felt it was needing to be addressed. Impressive. To this day, I have nothing but respect for "P".
And I don't lend my trailer any more. When guys ask, I say I don't loan it but if it works out I will do the hauling for you.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
I hate borrowing tools. If I borrow it, it will come back in as good or better condition than what I received. As a result, borrowing almost always costs me as much as buying it and I still don't have the tool myself. I've actually had people lend me stuff they knew was broken - because they knew I'd fix it before bringing it back (I've had them volunteer this info, after I bring it back).
From my experience, if it's an expensive tool that I use very seldom, it's way cheaper/easier to rent it from a rental company.
Unfortunately, almost no one shares my feelings about returning borrowed stuff. It comes back covered in grease/oil/paint/rust and/or pieces are missing or broken. Often they try to hide the damage, or I get the "it was that way when I got it" crap. (If i lend you a tool, I'm going to check it over before you leave with it. Not so I can catch you if you damage it. I do it so you don't end up on the jobsite with a useless tool, nor do I want to put you in position of having to say "it was broken when I got it". If it is an iffy tool - I'll tell you up front, with clear statement of my expectations i.e. if it breaks, don't worry about it, I'm planning on upgrading anyway...).
I am down to only one, maybe two people I will lend stuff to. Oddly enough, they're also the same people I would consider borrowing from.
For most people, I am like many of you - if I value our friendship, I will often offer to come help, and bring my tool(s).
I once loaned my Chevy oil pump primer to a good friend of mine, Norm. I'm horribly forgetful when I lend stuff to guys I know I can trust, because I know I'll get it back eventually. Norm also happened to work at our dealership at that time, with his work station about 15' from mine. We couldn't see each other when we were working but we could hear what was going on at each counter.
I had forgotten the primer was gone. Someone asked me to borrow it and I couldn't find it. When the guy who asked to borrow it stopped in at the dealership the next day to pick it up, I said "I'm sorry, I just can't find it. I have no idea where it is." With that I hear Norm's voice "You mean the one on my workbench at home?" LOL, he knew where it was, but I didn't!
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
I have a reverse take on this. I once borrowed a king pin reamer kit ( remember them? ) from a friend so as to replace the king pins on my 40 Packard. This would have been about 1997. First he moved, then I moved but we always said someday I was going to get it back to him. Well that someday finally came in September of 2018. Surprisingly he hadn't had a need for it.
I borrowed a big old Hilti hammer drill from a good friend to drill a bunch of holes in my foundation. The transmission blew up and could not be repaired.
So I simply bought him a new one.
I lend with a smile, but not to everyone..
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65 Laurentian post, 67 Grande Parisienne 4 door HT.
I borrowed a big old Hilti hammer drill from a good friend to drill a bunch of holes in my foundation. The transmission blew up and could not be repaired.
So I simply bought him a new one.
I lend with a smile, but not to everyone..
No disrespect to your bud Mark...but if it were me I would have kicked in for part of it. Old vs new..and how many hrs did it have on it? Just my way of thinking. Yes..buy him a new one...but he is getting new for old. That is not a cheap tool!
I borrowed a big old Hilti hammer drill from a good friend to drill a bunch of holes in my foundation. The transmission blew up and could not be repaired.
So I simply bought him a new one.
I lend with a smile, but not to everyone..
No disrespect to your bud Mark...but if it were me I would have kicked in for part of it. Old vs new..and how many hrs did it have on it? Just my way of thinking. Yes..buy him a new one...but he is getting new for old. That is not a cheap tool!
Yes, it was painfully expensive. But I had possession of the thing for basically a year while I built my addition. Can't count how many times I used it. We just simply took it out of the construction budget to replace it.
But I was rather surprised he didn't balk at it.
Just adding a little "lendee" perspective here I guess.
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65 Laurentian post, 67 Grande Parisienne 4 door HT.
I had a different car trailer when I was 25, and I loaned it out to a guy I knew, let's call him "W" and his brother is "P". He hauled a way-too-big tractor on it and bent the axles. And when it came back,the light wiring was in need of repair as well.
I didn't say anything to him but I did mention it to my brother and word got out. "W" never said a word but days later "P" came to me and wanted to make it right. "P" wasn't even involved with using the trailer but still felt it was needing to be addressed. Impressive. To this day, I have nothing but respect for "P".
And I don't lend my trailer any more. When guys ask, I say I don't loan it but if it works out I will do the hauling for you.
Carl, you would lend me the trailer right? I still remember the bang and the car rolling into the ditch. LOL
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1967 2dr Biscayne. L36, M40, G80, K05, F41. #'s. 1967 Impala convert. 283, glide. Parked in the garage since 74 and hasn't moved. Soon to be BB 4speed.
LOL, I was just telling a customer that story this week. I was explaining to him why you have a foolfproof safety when you strap something down on the trailer. I have never trailered again without 4 straps PLUS the safety chain wired on. There's no way that's happening again...
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
Always want to help a guy in a bind....but when they don't bring them back or break them without replacing them...it just cost me! Went to grab a tool tonight and remembered that my neighbour had borrowed it,broke it and not replace it...no more lending to him! Just think it's common courtesy to replace (if broken) or return when your done!