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66 327 motor mounts


what name brand of motor mounts can we buy that look factory and they are strong?



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Oh boy, million dollar question. I've posted about this before and man, is there junk out there...

I've always ended up buying NOS stuff, or in one case managed to find some slightly used NOS ones from a guy.

This is for Beaumont I assume? (I haven't looked, they may all be the same in 66, I know that's not the case for 67 where B body has 2 choices.)

If you have an original mount and a local parts house can get you mounts, take the original along to compare with the new one. You'll know in an instant whether they're any good or not when you see them side by side.

I'll see if I can find some pics of the junk ones and post pics later.

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I'm curious, Carl - what are the differences that make them junk?  Is it that the steel elements are not robust enough, or that they are not made to correct dimensions?  Or??

Question 2:  If it's just the rubber elements that go bad on original mounts, can those elements be replaced with new material so that an original mount can be reused?

These may be stupid questions as I'm a little out of the loop on this stuff.



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Kevin try ROC AUTO they carry and show many different alternatives.

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MC wrote:

I'm curious, Carl - what are the differences that make them junk?  Is it that the steel elements are not robust enough, or that they are not made to correct dimensions?  Or??

Question 2:  If it's just the rubber elements that go bad on original mounts, can those elements be replaced with new material so that an original mount can be reused?

These may be stupid questions as I'm a little out of the loop on this stuff.





I'll find pictures later and post them showing what happens with junk mounts. They are molded wrong and no amount of grinding, prying etc will get them to line up. It's amazing how bad it is. AND the thickness of the steel frame is substantially less, more like a heavy sheet metal than a good solid steel piece.

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More than the metal, the rubber can be junk as well.

Avoid anything rubber made in India. It'll fall apart with a little heat.

You'd almost be better to find a genuine GM mount in good shape and re-use it. I'd bet everything of the original design new today is offshore, and a gamble as such. I know you want the original look Kevin, but after having a new one fail, I'm sticking with Prothane mounts. You could do the same and just paint the bracket black?



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When I tried to test fit the block in my Acadian years back using the India mounts, this was the best I could get it to line up---

https://www.stevesnovasite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87870&highlight=mount

I put an old used set of GM mounts on the block and it fell right into place, no wiggling, nothing......

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Thanks Carl, that explains it.  Yeah, I wouldn't mess around with that garbage.  If they can't even get a simple dimension like that right in their "manufacturing process", then like Mark said, I wouldn't even trust them to have the proper rubber formulation.  Absolute crap, I'd say.

It's a shame you had to find out the hard way - like get the engine all the way in only to find out the holes don't match - but at least others can learn from your toils.



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I'm reading some late 1980's issues of Car Collector magazine and Steele rubber products in the U.S. had a core exchange program for re-vulcanized motor mounts back then ... I don't know if they still do ... worth checking.



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Pontiacanada wrote:

I'm reading some late 1980's issues of Car Collector magazine and Steele rubber products in the U.S. had a core exchange program for re-vulcanized motor mounts back then ... I don't know if they still do ... worth checking.


Still got the service, but $$$:  https://www.steelerubber.com/engine-mounts



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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lakewood-24084-Muscle-Motor-Mount-for-Chevy-Camaro-Chevelle-Impala-Malibu/141286167110?epid=74618995&hash=item20e54fd246

what about this make?



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MC wrote:

It's a shame you had to find out the hard way - like get the engine all the way in only to find out the holes don't match - but at least others can learn from your toils.





Thankfully that was a test fit with bare block just to get my clutch linkage sorted out.

Not pictured is how much I tried die grinding those holes to make the mounts fit, but it was a fruitless venture. And as I mentioned in that thread on the Nova site, I lifted the block, put 2 old GM mounts on and lowered it into place. Both bolts went in perfectly without so much as a wiggle.

I bought a pair of NOS mounts off ebay and it all fit perfectly.

Frustration would be an understatement. I could see it if it was just me but once I started telling the story on car sites others chimed in with the same story...

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70 SS ACADIAN wrote:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lakewood-24084-Muscle-Motor-Mount-for-Chevy-Camaro-Chevelle-Impala-Malibu/141286167110?epid=74618995&hash=item20e54fd246

what about this make?



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I've seen those, they look great but when I tried to buy a set at that time, they refused to measure a mount for me when I inquired. I wanted to ensure the mount is made correctly before I ordered. I think it was after that fiasco I said screw it, nothing but GM mounts for me on this job...

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the couple sets I see on ebay now are fairly pricey 



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Kevin try ROC AUTO they carry and show many different alternatives.


 gona check them out Chris. thanx for the heads up



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 I'm sticking with Prothane mounts. You could do the same and just paint the bracket black?


 looked at these too, $106 for the 2 engine and one for the tranny

would these transfer vibration?



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Others might disagree Kevin, but I don't think you'd feel any difference. I didn't in my 67 with the HO350. Same with the 496.

The 327 will get them as well.



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Steel rubber company makes good stuff


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Geez, I'd better check the condoms to see if they are from "INDIA" ??????

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Geez, I'd better check the condoms to see if they are from "INDIA" ??????


Too late...



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Anchor mount picture. They look like crap.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-PCS-Motor-Mount-Kit-for-Chevrolet-Bel-Air-283-4-6L-Engine-1957-1964/152065565954?hash=item2367d06502:g:tDkAAOSwiYFXG-SS:rk:33:pf:0

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They look exactly like the ones that failed on me. 



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I remember being a young kid and a fellow showing me a 327 in a pontiac that was strapped down saying that they would twist so much they would break the mounts,,? poor factory mounts ? OR ?

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Yes, the original mounts broke easily and were the reason for one of the biggest recalls in GM history. GM installed engine restraint cables on a pile of vehicles.

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I have an engine restraint cable set in the cupboard. Believe I stole it from a 67 full size.
Were they only used on the 327s or also the 283s?

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