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Repairing the 1965 B Body windshield channel.


I figure I'll kind of document the repair as it comes along. Every car probably suffers some form of this.

Got the hard sealer out from around the window. Looks like the glass has been out, and an attempt to reseal it was done, evidenced by the sticky sealer. Along with some very poor epoxy repair towards the lower sides. The pillars and top channel appear very good. The lower is basically shot all the way across with the worst in the center and the ends. I'll record some measurements as to how the windshield sits before pulling it.

So here is picture number 1,

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I'm wondering what the best course of action would be? I have access to what appears to be a fairly intact cowl section. Do I attempt to cut away and replace the entire section, or do I just fab small sections and fit them in as I go across? Small diy sections might be far easier. Really, cosmetics need not apply here, just a good structure that can properly support and allow for a good seal.

Here's some shots of that cowl. I feel with this type, you can't really know the condition of the lower channel until the glass is out, or at least the surround sealer has been picked/broken out.

While it looks ok, there is some rust visible. Look at the little seam line just below the glass edge, if it looks kind of prominent, there might be rust in it bulging it open.

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Anyone know the purpose of the small plastic pieces at the bottom corners? Held on by 2 Phillips screws. The screws and the remains of the tabs were all that were left of mine.

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The plastic pieces could be stops that the glass sits on to properly position the windshield in the opening. I have seen them on newer cars but usually on the bottom of the windshield, not at the corners.
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They could be stops. But there is also a rubber block in the same area. It's to the left of the circled area, above the little square metal tab.

Maybe intended to be some kind of deflector?



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HI Mark

I was thinking the same as Paul, that they were supports for the windshield. I had a similar problem with my 66 Parisienne. I went with the piece meal since I wasn't able to find anything in better shape. At some point someone had filled the bottom with bondo the entire length but didn't drill the drain holes.

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I noticed those on my black car too. I am guessing they deflect water away from a sensitive area but that's just a guess. And as to your other question, I'd do small sections like you stated. Not that I'm an expert though!

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Thanks for the shots Gary. Gives me a better perspective on how the sections overlap.

Yes, I'll probably just piece it in Carl. I should have the glass out today, so we'll have a better look see then.



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I hadnt thought of a water deflector. I friend had a 99 Buick and had the windshield resealed twice for a water leak. The passenger floor was always wet after a heavy rain. The third time he went to the dealer with the problem. The service manager said he knew what the problem was and gave a price to fix it. Apparently there is a water deflector glued to the bottom of the windshield to stop water running into the heater box. He said it was common to be missed on a windshield replacement.
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Here are some shots of my 67 Impala which was in terrible shape.

 

Here is the full dash section that was brought out of the USA by my body shop.

Had to broken down into 3 sections to be properly welded in as the factory would have done.

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This is the sad shape of the lower windshield area

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Under Dash Shot 

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Upper dash removed 

 

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 Dash being spot welded into place 

 

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 One of the process. 

 

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Hope these shots will aid you in the work ahead 



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CDN Pont, Yours doesn't look too bad (but sometimes it gets uglier the deeper you dig). First impression on yours is that I'd just fab small bits to replace the soft areas rather than tackling the finding and changing out of an upper cowl.

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Thanks to you Mark, I will now be cutting the full windshield channel out of my parts car as insurance! biggrin



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I think a full cowl change is beyond what I can tackle. So yes, it's going to be a piecemeal repair. I dont think it really needs to be pretty anyway. Just close enough that the glass fits right, preserved so it lasts, and watertight.

But if you have a clean parts channel, I would be definitely be cutting it out before scrapping the shell.

Now I just need to find some time to get at it. We all know how it goes...summers here! I'll now have all the time I need...right.



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Mark if you can rebuild a turbo 400 you can replace a whole cowl!

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mark i pieced my 65 impailer together looked about the same as yours came out fine ! 20 yrs later still holding

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Carved the turkey:

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