Hi everyone, I'm new to the site and hope to draw on some of your expertise. We are doing a frame restoration on a '62 Parisienne 2 Dr HT. Does anyone know if Chevy rear outter wheel wells will fit? Mine are repairable but I would go new if it isn't too much hastle. Also looking to source exterior molding clips.
Thanks, appreciate it! I've not engaged in anything body before, always been more mechanical, guess we should stick to what we know. Been doing the frame off with my son, he likes the shaping and welding side of things. Plan to get the metal work done then send it out to finish.
Any recommendations on where to look for the side molding clips?
A good way to check rear wheel wells for fit is a fender skirt. The 62 Chev 2 door and 4 door have the same lip and rear quarter plus trunklid for that matter, earlier years had differences in those areas. I assume a 62 Cdn Pontiac had those same things matching whether a 2 door, 4 door, hardtop, sedan, or convertible, in case you are looking for a used part.
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63 Parisienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. 1963- Pontiac top selling car in Canada
Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic
Thanks, a fender skirt would be a great template. I don't have access to fender skirts but am fortunate that I was able to buyer a good 2 Dr HT donar car from Manitoba. I have some spare body parts incase I have the misfortune of someone hitting me I will be able to be my own parts store so to speak. I will remove everybody usable body part, glass blast, prime and store.
I notice no one is commenting on a source for body clips. Am I to read into that, that there simply isn't anyone out there selling them?
Where are you with your 62 project? Maybe post some in progress pics?
Don
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63 Parisienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. 1963- Pontiac top selling car in Canada
Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic
try Amesperf for clips...pdf catalogue I believe and possibly Frank's pontiac parts for a piece of rust free quarter panel. Both these places are U.S. I got a set of rocker moulding clips from Ames for my 63. Other than a clean used quarter piece I think you'll have to fab something....Don't quote me on that though there could be patch panels out there somewhere!
Thanks Otus. I did download their catalogue they have a lot of great stuff that doesn't seem to be anywhere else. When I measured the slots on the body for the clips to pop into the measurements didn't match up. The clips were a little long.
Don asked me for an update with pics on my project.I hope this isnt too much!The white car in the photos is to be the good one.She looked pretty good when I bought it, not wavy but it clearly had work done in the past.When we took the front fenders off and the rockers there wasnt anything there and we didnt know what it was supposed to look like.Thankfully the donor car had never been touched.The rocker and surrounding structure was all there and good enough to be a template.I had all the various pieces made from 18-gauge sheet metal.Once get the new floor in well be ready to build the rocker assembly and supports.Hopefully, we can get at it in November.
The bottom of the rear quarters on the donor need very little work so we will butt weld the necessary pieces with the mig.The quarter in the photo has already been fixed, just needs a skim of fill over the seam.That will be done by whoever I get to paint it.We are going to cut the quarter off behind the wide trim, just below the trim clips holes to hide the seam.
The plan is to use the frame from the donor car.I will send it out to get blasted and do any repairs that may be necessary. Oddly enough the donor engine cradle is rusted on the vertical portion and the bottom is thin.It was full of silt and held moisture in there.The cradle in the white car was well preserved with oil and grease over the years so we will swap out the cradles.Before it goes back under the car, I will treat it with Por15.
I have all new bushings for the factory control arms, new suspension, steering etc.
Looking for input on a trim issue.I included a photo of the trim.Ive been checking around trying to find out how to recreate the metallic silver look that is so prominent on the front fender and half of the door. This silver area is also textured, not smooth. Id like to come up with a plan before I send it to be re-chromed.Unfortunately, the front fender trim appears to be only on the 1962 Parisienne and Bonneville models.If anyone has any experience with this, Id appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks for the pics, your shop is way too tidy, do you give tours? Your work looks great, what engine and transmission?
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63 Parisienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. 1963- Pontiac top selling car in Canada
Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic
Wow! now I like a guy that can think on his feet and clearly you do! That is no small build I'd say. Love it. So the mouldings..maybe get em chromed then carefully back mask and sand blast? Then dumb down the silver of your choice. I don't see how one could get rechroming done without doing the center area as well..and not too sure on trying to chemically etch the area to be painted.Likely cast mouldings like my 63? The texture between the chrome looks to me like it could be made close with careful sand blasting. If it isn't "etched" somehow the finish will fail...considering a textured surface. Just my 2C
lol...tours and there's a collection plate at the door as you leave... she has the factory numbered 283 with the powerglide. I ran it and did a compression test before taking it out. All were within 3 lbs of 130, for a 130,000 mile engine that just came out of 30 yr storage, I thought was pretty good so left the bottom end alone. Pulled the heads to remove the carbon, hand ground the values, put both types of valve seals in, timing chain & gears, water pump, then period correct 4bbl dome and carb. Pulled the oil pan and sump and cleaned them up. It's all painted GM orange and ready to go.
Next time you are heading to Halifax feel free to stop in i'm only 1-1/2km off Hwy 103 at exit 4.
Thanks Otus, I would never have thought to try sand blasting, tricky business but it might work. I may try it on the chrome from the donor car to see how it works. I agree that they likely got that feel when they did the casting. My son wants me to use textured vinyl but that's not for me. The silver then continues on between the groves for the length of the car. There is a guy a know who may have run across this before. He is about 3 hours from here. He's a 2nd generation specialist in restoring classics. They use to take 6 vehicles a winter to work on when things were quiet in their shop. Appreciate the feedback!