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In what year were auto manufacturers required to have KM/H speedometers for Canadian cars?


Canada went metric in 1970,who was the first auto manufacturer to have KM/H speedometers?

When did it become law and required by all auto manufacturers?



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around 77- 78 I think



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If I'm remembering this correctly, I had a '76 Nova that was in miles, and a '77 that was in km.  So I say '77.



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April 1, 1975 was the date Canada actually went metric.

Our driver training cars from Rumble Pontiac were LeMans and Centurys and even though I took training in fall of 1974 these were 1975 models and my recollection is they had MPH as the major scale and kph as a minor scale on the speedo. I feel that GM Canada led the way here and other makes were slower to follow usually being based on model changeovers. So not all cars switched over necessarily at the same time.



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70 SS ACADIAN wrote:

around 77- 78 I think


 Good memory Kevin.

From a Canadian Encyclopedia website---

 

The next significant change (September 1977) was the introduction of road signs showing distances in kilometres and speed limits in kilometres per hour.



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When it filtered over to cars is not all that clear from the literature, but here are a couple of examples:

'76 full size Chevrolet speedometer is clearly in miles and looks like it has km on a minor scale:

76 chevy dash.jpg

Note from the '77 Dodge Charger brochure mentions a metric-predominent speedometer.  '76 has no mention so I'm assuming it didn't happen till '77 with Chrysler.  Not sure with GM, but it appears to be after '76.

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I looked at a 59-60 Chevy dash a while back, the round 59 dial had an inner kph scale, likely a stick on, dont remember seeing anything like that on other cars let alone a 59.

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Thanks Don, you reminded me of those stick-on numbers that were available from the aftermarket for awhile, for people to apply to their mph speedometers to 'convert' them to km/h.  My friend's parents had purchased a '76 Volare new and I recall them putting those numbers on their mph speedometer...



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Our 77 Leman's was MPH with small KPH

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To add further fuel to the fire, there's this archived Maclean's magazine article from August 1977...

https://archive.macleans.ca/article/1977/8/22/prepare-to-walk-your-last-mile#!&pid=16

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Canada switch to km 2.jpeg

 

So, it looks like 1977-78 is the correct answer.



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I would not know about GM, but I know for a fact that Ford introduced the dual mph and kph display in 1977. I factory ordered my '76 Mercury Cougar XR7 in the fall of '75. I still own this beauty. The odometer is in mph. My brother in law bought a new '77 Cougar XR7 which displayed both. Therefore, I concur with the previous thoughts in that the changes came in 1977.

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I believe that during the transition period, KPH decal overlays for MPH speedos were rather common place;
The first year that Firebirds had a legitimate "Canadian" (read: KPH) speedo was 1979.

For 1975 through 1978 (at least) Firebirds used a speedometer with MPH predominant, and KPH smaller;
For 1979 it was reversed - KPH was predominant, and MPH was smaller.

I was gifted a 1970 Firebird gauge cluster this past year which had a really nice looking KPH speedo overlay...



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MC wrote:

Thanks Don, you reminded me of those stick-on numbers that were available from the aftermarket for awhile, for people to apply to their mph speedometers to 'convert' them to km/h.  My friend's parents had purchased a '76 Volare new and I recall them putting those numbers on their mph speedometer...


The Canadian government handed those out also ... here's a set I found in an old car ... says copyrighted 1974. Metrics Canada symbol in the top left corner.

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All of the above plus all 6 of my vehicles from a truck to 5 cars and a motorhome get so many miles per gallon! That is just the way it has been and always will be for me.

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RE: In what year were auto manufacturers required to have KM/H speedometers for Canadian cars?


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All of the above plus all 6 of my vehicles from a truck to 5 cars and a motorhome get so many miles per gallon! That is just the way it has been and always will be for me.


 Yup. Our kids are 22 and 25. Both of them are quite comfortable with measurements of weight, size, volume etc in Imperial because that's all they ever saw and heard me use when they were growing up. 

When's the last time you saw a metric sheet of plywood? Or heard farmers talk about their crop yields in other than bushels/acre? 



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Looking at a 75 Formula Firebird today, it is MPH with kph minor scale in blue, same as 75 LeMans I mentioned earlier, in fact they use the same speedometer.

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My first car "1975 Olds Cutlass S " was in MPH, I miss saying I went 100 MPH, lots faster than 100 KPH lol, I still calculate in so many miles per gallon, feet ... as well. When I go to the USA I don't have a hard time quickly converting in my little brain, miles to Kms.  



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Oh, I misinterpreted the conversation - I thought we were wondering when speedometers were first predominantly in km/h, with mph as the secondary units.  We are actually discussing when km/h first appeared on mph predominant speedometers - I got it.



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GM went to metric speedometers and odometers in the 1978 model year.



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MC wrote:

If I'm remembering this correctly, I had a '76 Nova that was in miles, and a '77 that was in km.  So I say '77.


 Agreed - My 76 mercury Meteor was MPH while my friends 77 Marquis was KM/H



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As mentioned above some folks would put those "KM" stickers on their speedo. In London they usually came from radio station CFPL. A great marketing gimmick as you'd also see those call letters on the sticker. What a PITA to get those stickers off! And yes, dad put them on the 69 Pontiac's speedometer...


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