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I have always loved Don even in the worst of times when he was getting himself into trouble for just being himself. The reality is that we live in very different times that will probably never change now. He was even slammed for liking Rob Ford when he was still alive and dead. Don is a great guy and i share many of his views but in today's times it just does not make it anymore especially among today's younger folks. It should be interesting to see how he will be persecuted this time around. Don like many of us around his age are an almost dead breed that is very misunderstood. Even though i do not agree with everything he has done and said i still like the man and still think that no one knows as much about hockey as he does. Ahmen and cheers. 



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Don is opinionated and a loudmouth but I have never held that against him. It's kind of endearing in a way. A dissenting opinion is still allowed the last time I checked, but then again... hmm

Years ago he landed in hot water over some comment about Europeans wearing face masks. After the public vilification took place he was later exonerated as he actually spoke factually.

This time he has spouted off about the nonobservance of Remembrance Day without actually bothering to check if it was accurate. He had a feeling that new immigrants were not into Remembrance Day and proceeded to declare it in a blanket statement. Dangerous and foolish to make such insensitive & loose comments, unless you like public wrath. In fact as British subjects numerous Asian Indians joined in WWII. I've personally visited the memorial to WWII Veterans in New Delhi.

The apathy & distance from the personal WWII involvement gets greater every year as survivors of that era die off. It isn't so much of a race thing as much as a time & distance thing (too many generations removed).


"It is better to be silent and presumed a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."


Mr. Cherry, I hope you have a nice flame suit as you are going to need it. I respected your opinions on hockey, but that doesn't automatically validate or exalt every other opinion to which you may or may not be qualified to speak. Take her slow and next time think before speaking. Act in haste, repent at leisure.



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Not directed at you George  but this brings to mind a movie line. To quote Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men,

"You Can't Handle the Truth!"

In Toronto Remembrance Day has taken on the same stature as Christmas, we mustn't talk about it anymore.

I realize this post is headed for closure, but I have to say that both my grandfathers were wounded in action in France in WW1, my Father sailed in Corvettes on the Atlantic in the RCN in WWII, My uncle, a US Marine received a Purple Heart. Remembrance Day is pretty darn important in our household. These 4 men are some of the toughest selfless people I have ever know. Thanks to them and all the others, especially the ones who never returned. 



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This thread will be okay as long as it doesn't turn into members attacking members.

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As long as its ok then listen to this true story.

Our church for the entire time I have been a member, since 1999 always has a wonderful Remembrance Sunday Service. The service is led by the area Signal Corp Chaplin and the church is full of Colour Guard, Trumpeter, and Troops, Cadets, Reserve and Regulars. Always ends with God Save The Queen and Oh Canada (nobody sings Us by the way) They parade to Church and away at the end. The service is a traditional Remembrance Day Service, Last Post, minute of Silence, Reveille, the whole 9 yards. Our Minister received a letter from the highest level of government Ministerial authority cancelling the DND involvement in the service citing that the members of the unit are not all Christians and Culturally diverse and some have lodged complaints about their attendance.  



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As long as its ok then listen to this true story.

Our church for the entire time I have been a member, since 1999 always has a wonderful Remembrance Sunday Service. The service is led by the area Signal Corp Chaplin and the church is full of Colour Guard, Trumpeter, and Troops, Cadets, Reserve and Regulars. Always ends with God Save The Queen and Oh Canada (nobody sings Us by the way) They parade to Church and away at the end. The service is a traditional Remembrance Day Service, Last Post, minute of Silence, Reveille, the whole 9 yards. Our Minister received a letter from the highest level of government Ministerial authority cancelling the DND involvement in the service citing that the members of the unit are not all Christians and Culturally diverse and some have lodged complaints about their attendance.  


 Sad, they should be happy no matter what their beliefs are that they have the support of the churches of Canada.



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Don't know really what brought this on, whether it's immigrants or the rainbow poppy BS. I have never really heard of immigrants disrespecting Nov 11. Now, the do-gooder citizens of this country, who think that they must apologize for every one of our customs, that's another story altogether.
I like Don, but he should talk hockey, and that's it it's what he knows. He is a celebrity and like most celebrities, they tend to think their opinion is the only one that's important. His opinion is just the opposite of most of the other celebs.

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I enjoy Dons bombast from time to time but I think his comments are questionable based on how did he know who was an immigrant and who was not? Skin colour or religious apparel does not mean you are an immigrant. Don did not mention skin colour but some commentators have brought it up.

In Nova Scotia, we had major protests for the shopping malls being open Nov 11 a bunch of years ago. The response was, everything closed, malls, government , no newspapers, schools, you name it. That allows time for everyone to attend a ceremony or not. But it does show respect for the memory of those who serve and those who served in the past. And those who lost their lives.

I think all Provinces should copy what NS has done.

We attend a ceremony at the cenotaph in Mahone Bay, it is well attended by all ages, school kids do lots of school projects on local soldiers who fought and or died in all wars, a great way to remember and keep the memories alive. We have immigrants from Syria, they attend.

I cant imagine why any active soldier would not want to attend a Remembrance Day ceremony, in any church.

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Remembrance Day is a stat holiday here in PEI and should be across the rest of the country.

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BTW, 11-11 is celebrated in China as singles day, they did $31 billion in sales in 1 Day at Alibaba this year. Now North American retailers are getting into the action with singles day sales..........



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There is sometimes a disconnect between Cherry's brain and his mouth. Maybe because he is TV celeb, he just spouts off crap to stir a manure pile ... one of many celebs out there that do the same.

 

As former 11 year employee of Veterans Affairs Canada, the thing I found/find perplexing is that many people do not think beyond WW1 & WW2 when it comes to veterans. Veteran Affairs Canada themselves were guilty of this exact same tunnel vision for years, and now they have finally (just within the past 8 years, believe it or not) had to catch up with the times.

On a personal note; The Korean War was not recognized as a "real" war initially, and my Dad, a Korean War veteran, was not officially awarded and recognized as such until the 1980s when he was finally awarded (mailed) his Korean War medal.no I remember he was disgusted. That medal never made it into his medal/badge display (he also had WW2 medals, he was called-up, but was never deployed because the war had ended).

Remembrance Day is for veterans both young and old ... those who have fought and passed and those who have recently fought and are still alive.

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Remembrance Day is a stat holiday here in PEI and should be across the rest of the country.


 YES. I can think of a less deserved recognized holiday.



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1)  I think people forget that Don Cherry is 85 years old, and that the "filter" probably isn't as good as it should be.  I've seen him go off on tangents a few times over the past few years and Ron has to try to reel him in, a difficult job at best.  IMHO, he should consider retirement from broadcasting.

2) Remembrance Day should be a stat holiday in the entire country.  It astounds me that it isn't.



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I heard Don's comments and certainly would not have repeated them on TV. He said those were his observations and was challenging everyone to honour the people who served this country so we can enjoy the freedoms we have today. Are his observations wrong? Are people in our larger cities not engaging in Remembrance Day as we use to? I to am getting a little long in the tooth and sometimes my filter doesn't work as well as it should so I sympathize a little with Don. I've had the privileged of attending Remembrance Day services around Saskatchewan, the NWT and Nova Scotia, my home. I think we all sometimes forget people from across our cultural mosaic, that makes up our country, including our aboriginal peoples, have fought and made the supreme sacrifice for our country. In Nova Scotia, we have the Remembrance Day Act that requires businesses to be closed, some exceptions are made for certain businesses to remain closed at least until after the service. While at the service this morning, there was a gentleman infront of me of East Indian decent, I think, wearing a Toronto Maple Leaf toque. The usual announcements were made at appropriate times to remove your headdress but this man never did. I wanted to speak to him to educate him on what is considered appropriate conduct but didn't. On the other hand I was pleased he was there and was possibly trying to learn our traditions; but on the next hand, he may have lived in this country as long as I. I also began to wonder if much time is spent during the citizenship course to inform new immigrants of how important this day is to our country and the traditions of the day, or is it simply glossed over. Just maybe, immigrants who don't wear a poppy or behave the way we think they should at a Remembrance Day Service, simply don't know all the things we have had ingrained in us since birth.

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The bottom line is there's going to be people of all races who show respect and people of all races who don't. In my 50 some odd years of life I have learned all races have great people and all races have jerks. Colour of the skin doesn't seem to determine whether they are good people or not. People need to get this into their thick skulls.
It seems people spend too much time and energy on blaming their problems on another race. If it's not another race then it's that other province. If not that other province , then it's that other city. If it's not the people from the other city then it's people from "the other side of town". disbelief



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I'm not a big hockey guy, but was never a fan of Don Cherry. For the few times I heard him I didn't agree with his perspective on the players and the sport. ... this one finally did him in. I fully support free speech... but his was on someone's dime, and they get to set the rules. I'm glad that they dealt with him.

On a seperate note, my kids are in kindergarten and grade 1. They learned about remembrance day and wore red poppies at school. It's still being taught where we are.

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 His time finally came. Now he can spend more time in his basement rec-room.



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Here's one.
I managed a branch of a national company for a number of years. At the time the province did not recognize Remembrance Day as a stat holiday. However, I personally have always taken the time off to attend one of the local ceremonies. One of the members of our team was retired from the military, and he voiced his disdain that the company didn't recognize the day as a stat holiday. I agreed with him and said that locally we would provide anyone who attends a ceremony the time off with full pay... but only if they attend the ceremony. Otherwise, people could still take the time off, but if they were not attending a ceremony it would be without pay or by using a vacation day. I asked him if he would be attending a ceremony to which he responded he would not. I asked him if he would be taking the day off, either without pay or as a paid vacation day. He chose to work instead.
I may be missing something but... if a person feels so strongly that they shouldn't be working on Remembrance Day, is it not a little hypocritical to neither attend a ceremony with full pay or to even take the day off without pay?

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The bottom line is there's going to be people of all races who show respect and people of all races who don't. In my 50 some odd years of life I have learned all races have great people and all races have jerks. Colour of the skin doesn't seem to determine whether they are good people or not. People need to get this into their thick skulls.
It seems people spend too much time and energy on blaming their problems on another race. If it's not another race then it's that other province. If not that other province , then it's that other city. If it's not the people from the other city then it's people from "the other side of town". disbelief


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The bottom line is there's going to be people of all races who show respect and people of all races who don't. In my 50 some odd years of life I have learned all races have great people and all races have jerks. Colour of the skin doesn't seem to determine whether they are good people or not. People need to get this into their thick skulls.
It seems people spend too much time and energy on blaming their problems on another race. If it's not another race then it's that other province. If not that other province , then it's that other city. If it's not the people from the other city then it's people from "the other side of town". disbelief


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Just how does the wearing of a plastic poppy determine a persons level of respect for the fallen? 

And I might ask, did our bravest not sacrifice themselves so we could always have the freedom to choose as we may? Should we be called out for not doing so?



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On a lighter note,

A joke,

How is Hockey Night in Canada like Del Monte fruit cocktail?



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...Both have canned grapes.



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Just how does the wearing of a plastic poppy determine a persons level of respect for the fallen? 

And I might ask, did our bravest not sacrifice themselves so we could always have the freedom to choose as we may? Should we be called out for not doing so?


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