I would like to thank our very own C.P. Carl for planting the seed about how pathetic these Fram oil filters really are. I do not know how to attach all the many videos that are out there proving how sad Fram really is, so you have to do your own home work. I watched these many videos and was appalled at how sad Fram really is. Like many folks up until Carl exposed the whole scam, really thought Fram was a quality product especially with that built in hand grip. The reality is that they are looking like the worst that is out there. Take the time to dig up the various videos that are out there exposing how bad Fram really is. I am amazed that company is not sueing but maybe the reason is because it is so blatant how bad their product really is. Cheers.
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1957 Pontiac Pathfinder Deluxe sedan restored 261 six
1974 Chevrolet Caprice Estate wagon low mileage original 400 V-8
A mechanic at a garage I know said he bought 6 or 7 filters of varying brands for the same application. He took them all apart, and said they're really only 2 manufacturers. I can't remember which brand was from which manufacturer, but the 3 brands I remember are AC Delco & WIX were from the better manufacturer, and Fram was from the poorer manufacturer.
I think I'm going to be sticking with AC Delco as I get a deal through work. I used to get a deal on WIX through my previous employer.
Years ago our shop used Fram until we got two bad ones. The first one, a Ford application wasnt threaded, and the second one on a Chevy 350 leaked as soon as I started the car. The second one was cut through the side where it was crimped together. Our supplier had other brands, so we changed to Wix. This was only two filters out of thousands we had used, so a very low percentage of failures. This was in the mid 70s.
Since Carl exposed Fram for what it really is awhile back, i have only used WIX on my regular everyday car and AC DELCO on my 74 400 V-8. A couple of years ago i was really curious to see what the Fram filter looked like that was in my Corolla. I cut it apart and the element was sucked in at the middle of the element. Sad sad sad.
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1957 Pontiac Pathfinder Deluxe sedan restored 261 six
1974 Chevrolet Caprice Estate wagon low mileage original 400 V-8
Years ago when I worked for a John Deer dealer, I had the parts manager cross reference a filter for a Dodge Caravan. The price was quite a bit more than a Fram so I told him that the Fram that I had been using on the vehicle was such and such price lower.
Needless to say, he educated me that Fram was garbage and were just riding their name brand but were terrible quality. This must have been 17 years ago or so I have always remembered that. I have used them occasionally since but very, very infrequently. I have a K&N on the 396 but I think I might just go to a long AC Delco in the future.
I did use a Fram on the 396 when I transported the engine from the engine builder to my house just to keep the dust and dirt out but once the engine was installed, off it came and on went the K&N.
Scary part is, how many millions of them are out there still doing their best to wear out an engine. Pretty much the entire population of general consumers have been brainwashed by the years of advertising hype and jingles, and think they are a quality part. Maybe they even were long ago.
But the car guys all know better now...
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65 Laurentian post, 67 Grande Parisienne 4 door HT.
Back about 1981 I struck up a good relationship with a GM dealer. His sons were the mechanics and they ran into an issue with low oil pressure with a Fram filter. I believe GM at that time gave their dealers cut away oil filters, one Fram and one AC Delco. The AC filter had more paper and a much superior quality paper. I pretty much stuck to AC Delco filters ever since. Like tires, there are only 2 or 3 companies that manufacture filters, and if memory serves me I think back then Fram made AC Delco but obviously to GM specs.
The old Fram commercial back in the 1970s feature a mechanic who said, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
Jeez, the old Chevy stovebolt 6s didn't come standard with an oil filter until 1962. Air-cooled VWs just had a mesh screen.
If a filter collapses it can cause a pressure reduction and throw the filter into by-pass mode. I don't know, do Frams come with a filter by-pass? If not, then yes they are the absolute worst option.
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67 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe, Oshawa-built 250 PG never disturbed.
In garage, 296 cid inline six & TH350...
Cam, Toronto.
I don't judge a man by how far he's fallen, but by how far back he bounces - Patton
Fram makes their own garbage. FRAM did have a plant in Stratford at one time
Champion makes the current blue AC Delco filters, Wix did make the older white AC filters
Interesting that WIX made the older AC DELCO filters. It just makes sense that those are the two best oil filters on the market. I wonder how the later (blue) AC DELCO oil filters stand up. I use the white AC DELCO's in my 400 V-8 and WIX in my everyday car. By the way it was Carl that sold me a box of white AC DELCO'S for my 74. Cheers.
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1957 Pontiac Pathfinder Deluxe sedan restored 261 six
1974 Chevrolet Caprice Estate wagon low mileage original 400 V-8
Yes I kind of chuckle when I see that when I'm selling an oil filter now. The positive side to going back 50 years to the canister style again is you can see what quality the filter is that you're installing!
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
I wonder if Fram's higher end Synthetic oil filters are as bad. They tend to be twice the price of the regular oil filters but it would be interesting to know if those are as bad as the regular junk.
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1957 Pontiac Pathfinder Deluxe sedan restored 261 six
1974 Chevrolet Caprice Estate wagon low mileage original 400 V-8
