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1963-66 AM or FM antenna, a post for antenna info here.


Anyone here have a genuine Canadian Pontiac 1965 AM antenna for sale? One that would have been front fender mounted.

There is a cheesy aftermarket antenna in place on my 65, and obviously the hole was drilled, and it was added later as the car came with a radio delete plate. So it's all garbage.

I'm not up to speed as to what will cross reference over the years. But I likely need everything from the mast to the radio lead in. If nothing here, what would I need to have it at least look correct on a 1965 Oshawa car?

 

Edit 5 12 20, have found one, but the mast plating is faded to nothing. Still interested in a better mast if there is one out there....

 

Any thoughts?

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RE: 1965 AM antenna wanted.


Have you checked what is being asked for original antenna ?

I was looking to replace the one on my 63....decided to leave the one I have on the car.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1963-64-Chevrolet-Radio-antenna-kit-NOS-Impala-Belair-Big-car-NIB/161989157435?epid=672774069&hash=item25b74e623b:g:sMYAAOSwx-9Wz1kn

 



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I wouldn't have a problem with that amount, as long as it were correct.

I was looking through the Ames Pontiac book, and they repop them and what looks to possibly be all the parts. But are they correct for our Pontrolet's.



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Mark, I will try to check tonight if 66 is the same. If so I can get you some good pictures.

Sad part is, I really want to put that delete plate in my car and pull my antenna out. I just hate the idea of messing with the paint (plug the hole and spot paint) but I might still do it and just put a plug in the fender where the antenna was. I never use my radio. I think I turned it on once to see if it worked.

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cdnpont wrote:

I wouldn't have a problem with that amount, as long as it were correct.

I was looking through the Ames Pontiac book, and they repop them and what looks to possibly be all the parts. But are they correct for our Pontrolet's.


 Don't know if this is correct for your car,but might be worth contacting to find out.

https://www.early-birds.ca/

GTO / Electrical / Antennas. Early Birds ...

1964-1965 POWER ANTENNA ADAPTER ...

We have now reproduced the correct die cast antenna body; fork ...

to a factory power antenna or repair your existing antenna. ... Canada.

All content Copyright Early Birds. You may freely distribute this document in its entirety only.



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cdnpont wrote:

I wouldn't have a problem with that amount, as long as it were correct.

I was looking through the Ames Pontiac book, and they repop them and what looks to possibly be all the parts. But are they correct for our Pontrolet's.


 If I am right the Canadian antenna is not similar looking to the US version.



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Thanks George, that is a great resource. Very promising. https://www.early-birds.ca/parts_1038_1080_1622-2a-1.html

Carl, maybe this could be a post to describe our antennas in better detail. Or make a post when we find out more.



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http://www.gmpartswiki.com/getpage?pageid=7575

This Canadian catalogue page shows the individual component numbers that I used to buy a 986103 rear antenna kit the piecemeal way on ebay, and along side them are the 5739216 front antenna kit numbers.

Canadian and US rear antennas are 986103 kits but the front antennas differ between Canada and the USA, with 5739216 being the Canadian front antenna kit number.

I think we both know what a tough search those 5739216 component part numbers would be unfortunately.



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Mark, I started looking up numbers for 65-66 antennas on Canadian Pontiacs. My head is spinning worse the more I look....

One thing I can tell you for sure, the GM of Canada accessories catalogue says your 65 antenna is unique, it's 5739217. Some of the parts interchange from that accessory kit interchange with 66, some don't.

I believe we have a couple of members here with low mileage quite original 65's, so hopefully one of those guys will chime in here.



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Greaser wrote:

Have you checked what is being asked for original antenna ?

I was looking to replace the one on my 63....decided to leave the one I have on the car.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1963-64-Chevrolet-Radio-antenna-kit-NOS-Impala-Belair-Big-car-NIB/161989157435?epid=672774069&hash=item25b74e623b:g:sMYAAOSwx-9Wz1kn

 


 That is NOT a Canadian Pontiac antenna for those years.



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cdnpont wrote:

I wouldn't have a problem with that amount, as long as it were correct.

I was looking through the Ames Pontiac book, and they repop them and what looks to possibly be all the parts. But are they correct for our Pontrolet's.


 If I am right the Canadian antenna is not similar looking to the US version.


 Correct.



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'64 Canadian Pontiac antenna base/nut:

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1965 AM antenna wanted, and a post for antenna info here.


Is it possible the forward mounted AM antenna for the Canadian Pontiac is actually a Chevrolet part #?

Classic Industries has this for the 65/66 full size forward mount.

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1965/chevrolet/impala/parts/b255400.html

I'm supposing that the oval mast didn't come into play until 67? Hopefully an image of a genuine 65/66 will show up soon.

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That one is certainly wrong for a 66 Canadian Pontiac Mark. I don't know for sure on 65 though.

Right now my car is on the hoist covered up but I hope to be letting it down this weekend. When I do I'll get you some pictures.

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How about an image from the 65/66 CP assembly manual? Anything in there Carl?



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I took this photos of mine and while I'm not informed enough to speak of it's originality, Dave Anderson told me once that it was indeed a factory antenna.  My car did come with the radio as an accessory.  sorry for the photo size20200124_155804.jpg20200124_155820.jpg20200124_155843.jpg20200124_155752.jpg



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How about an image from the 65/66 CP assembly manual? Anything in there Carl?


 Sorry, nothing in there for the front antenna, just the power unit.



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I took this photos of mine and while I'm not informed enough to speak of it's originality, Dave Anderson told me once that it was indeed a factory antenna.  My car did come with the radio as an accessory.  sorry for the photo size20200124_155804.jpg


 I'm quite  sure that is exactly what the nut and mast looks like on mine.



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Thanks for the images Kim. 

With your comment Carl, Kim's images and looking at some of the 1600 images I have of Canadian Pontiac's, from some of the better images of 65/66, it does appear they have that black nut.

 



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cdnpont wrote:

Is it possible the forward mounted AM antenna for the Canadian Pontiac is actually a Chevrolet part #?

Classic Industries has this for the 65/66 full size forward mount.

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1965/chevrolet/impala/parts/b255400.html

I'm supposing that the oval mast didn't come into play until 67? Hopefully an image of a genuine 65/66 will show up soon.

an1.JPGan4.JPGan2.JPG

an3.JPG





 That is a 986103 Canadian Chevrolet or Pontiac REAR antenna just like mine.

 



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I agree with everyone saying the black plastic nut antenna is correct for the front fender antenna on Canadian cars.
That plastic nut is the same as 58 Corvette, I bought an NOS one once for my car before I found out the rear antenna is the same as on US cars.

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cdnpont wrote:

Thanks for the images Kim. 

With your comment Carl, Kim's images and looking at some of the 1600 images I have of Canadian Pontiac's, from some of the better images of 65/66, it does appear they have that black nut.

 


 Without going out to storage to absolutely verify I'm sure the black nut is correct.



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We're onto something.

58 corvette...hmm.



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I gotta jump back in here to say sorry I'm wrong about the antenna nut being the same as 58 Corvette, 56-60 actually.

I looked at the pic I took of it to advertise it for sale a few years ago and can see it's different.



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I took this photos of mine and while I'm not informed enough to speak of it's originality, Dave Anderson told me once that it was indeed a factory antenna. 


The only thing that would differentiate between your '65 Beaumont antenna and my '64 Parisienne antenna is the mast base mounting rings/gaskets or whatever you call them. Yours are flat and mine are contoured to fit on the ridge of my fender.

Mark's '65 Laurentian might also need these mast base contoured rings/gaskets to be mounted on his front fender.

 

Mine (excuse the broken black nut):

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