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1975 LeMans Wagon on eBay


eBay item number:
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Vehicle Specifics for 1975 Pontiac Le Mans station wagon
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1975 Pontiac Le Mans station wagon
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  • The vehicle wasn't intended for the US market (such as limited production exotics).

Item specifics

Condition:Used
Seller Notes:Absolute 100% perfection.
Year: 1975Mileage: 16074
Engine: 400 big blockNumber of Cylinders: 8
Sub Model: station wagonTransmission: Automatic
Interior Color: almondFor Sale By: Private Seller
Make: PontiacExterior Color: Copper
Drive Type: RWDTrim: Grand
Body Type: WagonVehicle Title: Clean
Warranty: Vehicle does NOT have an existing warrantyModel: 

Le Mans



-- Edited by carnut70ls4 on Friday 14th of February 2020 12:22:23 AM

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That car is intriguing! A Grand Lemans Safari with a 400 wearing correct Tampico Orange paint. Low miles, it is really nice. Somebody switched things around in the grille though.

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As opposed to:

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Wow.  You just don't see those around anymore. 

Those grille pieces look like they are interchangeable?  If so, it would be an easy fix.



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MC wrote:

Wow.  You just don't see those around anymore. 

Those grille pieces look like they are interchangeable?  If so, it would be an easy fix.


 If so perfect and original as the ad states,why would the grille be modified from original?

Why wouldn't the sell have corrected the grille? Front end damage at some point?



-- Edited by Greaser on Friday 14th of February 2020 11:06:07 AM

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Greaser wrote:
MC wrote:

Wow.  You just don't see those around anymore. 

Those grille pieces look like they are interchangeable?  If so, it would be an easy fix.


 If so perfect and original as the ad states,why would the grille be modified from original?

Why wouldn't the sell have corrected the grille? Front end damage at some point?



-- Edited by Greaser on Friday 14th of February 2020 11:06:07 AM


 Good questions.



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It's customized.

True story, a customer of mine back in the 90's owned a mint 1969 Oldsmobile 98 convertible that he bought new. He was an older guy. Never winter driven! Looking closely at the front end, his "98" badge was installed upside down & read "86". He never noticed it until I pointed it out (no, I don't want to be that guy who always points out every little flaw   blahblah.gif  )

 



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CdnGMfan wrote:

It's customized.

True story, a customer of mine back in the 90's owned a mint 1969 Oldsmobile 98 convertible that he bought new. He was an older guy. Never winter driven! Looking closely at the front end, his "98" badge was installed upside down & read "86". He never noticed it until I pointed it out (no, I don't want to be that guy who always points out every little flaw   blahblah.gif  )

 


 Mistakes were made on the line. On my 65 CS the word PONTIAC on the hood lip is of course all individual letters. Well the N is upside down. I had owned it a while before I noticed. Checked the speed nuts on the underside of the hood and it appears to have never been off.



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norontcan wrote:
CdnGMfan wrote:

It's customized.

True story, a customer of mine back in the 90's owned a mint 1969 Oldsmobile 98 convertible that he bought new. He was an older guy. Never winter driven! Looking closely at the front end, his "98" badge was installed upside down & read "86". He never noticed it until I pointed it out (no, I don't want to be that guy who always points out every little flaw   blahblah.gif  )

 


 Mistakes were made on the line. On my 65 CS the word PONTIAC on the hood lip is of course all individual letters. Well the N is upside down. I had owned it a while before I noticed. Checked the speed nuts on the underside of the hood and it appears to have never been off.


Having personally worked on the line for Chrysler ,and I've spend many years working for GM,yes mistakes happen.

I doubt a mistake this big would have made it through the final inspection gates. The guy's magic trailer storage story just doesn't add up.

Post the car's VIN and let's see how the car matches up. Nothing wrong with this car , it's really a beauty..and I would love to own it.

........car guys love great car stories ,but this one I think is a bit of a stretch to capture a buyer.

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From the auction text:  "Damage to the truck wasn't catastrophic and they drove home to Kelowna. "

There are members of this board from Kelowna - perhaps they've heard the story of this car before?

Who is to say whether it's true or not?  I doubt it would be an assembly line error, however, if the grille pieces are interchangeable, sometimes people do funny things to cars.  Don't know, but the wheels aren't stock either so...???

Regardless of whether the story is true or not, inspection of the vehicle in person would show whether it is as good as described or being misrepresented.  Unless you are the type to roll the dice and take a chance buying it on photos alone... 



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CdnGMfan wrote:
Somebody switched things around in the grille though.

I would think that the wire harnesses for the front parking lamps would have to be rerouted or maybe even modified to achieve the end result.

I like them better in their original configuration anyway.



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MC wrote:

From the auction text:  "Damage to the truck wasn't catastrophic and they drove home to Kelowna. "

There are members of this board from Kelowna - perhaps they've heard the story of this car before?

Who is to say whether it's true or not? 


 I think it might be easier to collaborate the latter part of the story (it's history in Alberta) and work from there.



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Greaser wrote:
........car guys love great car stories ,but this one I think is a bit of a stretch to capture a buyer.

About the "story"; why would you invest all that time, energy, and money on THIS vehicle if your endgame was just to park it, along with a new (damaged) truck and new trailer no less.confuse Is THIS vehicle really worth it?

In my eyes, this wagon is verging on the ugly side (I kinda like the exterior, but not the interior). Half the "story" reads like an embellishment.

Back in 1995, a high level executive with the railway was in the Northeastern States and through colleagues, heard about a mint and untouched original wagon, with next-to-no miles, that was stored away since new.  He pursued, found, and bought the car.  Here's where things get really carried away...   This gentleman refused to let anyone ship the car for him.  Instead, he went to the GM dealership and bought a brand new 1995 crew cab dually.  From there, he went and bought a brand new enclosed trailer.  Evidently, money wasn't much concern.  Along with his wife by his side, they made the trip back west to British Columbia Canada.  After making it 99% of the way home, they struck a deer.  Damage to the truck wasn't catastrophic and they drove home to Kelowna.  Once arriving, they parked truck and trailer containing car indoors.  That's where everything stayed.  Not many years later, the gentleman passed away.  Eventually, about 20 years later, collectors heard about a nearly brand new GM crew cab dually with some front end damage stored away.  With no knowledge of what the trailer contained, they bought the truck.  The car remained in the trailer, in the heated garage, until the couple's son sold the property and moved his mother to be closer with his family in Edmonton Alberta.  He hauled the trailer (with car) over the mountains, to the home he'd bought for his mother 2 blocks from his house.  The car was parked inside her garage, and remained there. Although there were some people that heard of the car, and approached with offers of purchase, they refused to sell it.  We heard of the car from the son.  He is senior partner at law firms in both Edmonton and Calgary Alberta.  We bought the car as a package deal with another old vehicle from him.   



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I got quite the story of where my trim tag was, when I bought my car off the estate of the owner.

I would repeat it every time I was asked "Where is your trim tag"

I just had a new tag made.

Now they wont ask and I wont tell.

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I've met people who weren't "die hard" car guys that got excited over the weirdest cars and treated them like they were vintage Duesenbergs (I see that a lot with those K car convertibles) so it's not a stretch this guy felt the same way about the wagon.

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I agree with Todd, sometimes people do the strangest things, like go to that level of trouble to get a car, and then lose interest and move on to something else... the 'next big thing'.

Regardless, my contention is that the story is there for amusement, but really it's the car that matters.  It's either a good car or it's not.  I like how it looks in the pics (except the location of the grille lights).  It has details on it that would be hard to find replacements for, that indicates it could be a minty fresh survivor - like the rubbery bumper guards, the little strips of tailgate trim with their inserts, the little clear plastic thing on the seatbelts, the window seals are not all cracked (which they were prone to, and I don't think you can get replacements), the door panels look pretty fresh, the plastic side panels in the cargo area aren't all sun faded or scratched up, etc.  A lot of details that often get damaged and that nobody pays much attention to, are still there.

I don't know about the engine colour, though, it looks more AMC than Pontiac, but I'm not an expert on mid seventies American Pontiacs.  Big Ray could probably confirm the details for us, if he reads this.



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CdnGMfan wrote:

It's customized.

True story, a customer of mine back in the 90's owned a mint 1969 Oldsmobile 98 convertible that he bought new. He was an older guy. Never winter driven! Looking closely at the front end, his "98" badge was installed upside down & read "86". He never noticed it until I pointed it out (no, I don't want to be that guy who always points out every little flaw   blahblah.gif  )

 


 When I was an apprentice the shop down from us undercoated cars for the local Pontiac Buick dealer. I was in his shop and he was undercoating a brand new 1977 Buick. On the left rear 1/4 panel was Electra and the other side was Park Avenue. 

 Our shop also had a customer that didnt like the brand name on his vehicles. His Gmc pickup didnt have any emblems on it anywhere. He even put the insert in the tailgate to cover the stamped in GMC letters. Maybe the owner of this Pontiac just wanted to personalize his car.

 

Paul 



-- Edited by Prefectca on Saturday 15th of February 2020 11:15:46 AM

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