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4SPEED427


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A site member PM'd me a link to a 66 Canadian Pontiac magazine ad I've never seen before. It proves what I've always been saying about 65 vs. 66 Pontiacs! Thanks Mike for sending me the link that confirms it!

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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles 

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By the way, it's on ebay-

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Canadian-Pontiac-print-ad-red-Grand-Parisienne-Coupe/114138130161?hash=item1a9329a6f1:g:0TAAAOSwg5ReVT2P



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Fake news.



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LOL, you KNEW who I was aiming at with this thread!

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Mark can't buy it for you.

He spent his allowance for this week wink



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Haha. No Problem Carl!

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So.....what does that mean about the '67's?


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Canadian Poncho wrote:

So.....what does that mean about the '67's?

 We tried to improve on the 66 Pontiac... We couldnt biggrinbiggrin



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LOL, perfect!!!

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I had a beautiful white on red 65 Parisenne convt that I loved. But I have to agree that the styling changes on the 66 GP make it the most beautiful model of those two years. I also have a very soft spot for the 67 GP - coupe, 4 dr HT or wagon. Any one would do. 



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Could you really get a 425 horse 427 in the 66?



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It shows everywhere, parts books, sales literature, service manuals etc but I've asked here numerous times and nobody has every come up with more than "I knew someone who knew someone who had one" type of thing.

I debated cloning mine to an L72 when I built it. My friend who has some L72 66 Chevies offered me some of the hard to find parts for the conversion if I wanted to do it but in the end I think the L36 was the right move.

How cool would an L72 wagon, Grande Parisienne or 2 door post be.......

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Now try to say this in a very friendly non offensive Jewish accent. Come on people, lets all try to get along here............ vat vat vat. Cheers. biggrin



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What are the main differences between the 390 hp and the 425 hp, I'm guessing carburetor,higher compression and camshaft

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Interesting question.

Actually, almost everything. I don't have my parts book handy but it seems to me the pistons are different too. I do know the following things are unique-

-Heads

-Cam and lifters (solid)

-Intake (aluminum)

-Carb (Holley)

-Air cleaner is dual snorkel closed element

-Exhaust manifolds (Corvette manifolds)

-Block is a 4 bolt main

-Pulleys are deep groove and there is a belt idler to keep the belt from flying off at high RPM.

-Harmonic balancer

-Distributor (I presume different weights and springs)

-Exhaust system (no resonators on the tailpipes and the exhaust exits right behind the back wheels instead of at the rear bumper)

-Manual transmission only, no automatics

One interesting note. The L72 was also available in 66 full size Chev and used all the same stuff. It was also available in 68-69 Chev full size cars but I don't know that it was ever available after 66 in a Canadian Pontiac. And only the 66's used the Corvette exhaust manifolds, the 68-69's used normal 396-427 manifolds.

 

 



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Item is gone. Maybe there is another person on the planet that likes the 66!



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LOL, you're just bitter.......!

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Hi Carl 1966 sure was a good looking and muscly year for Canadian Poncho all right!

The thing I have always wondered is what is the real difference the 396 and the 390 horse 427 other than its displacement.

I believe duel exhaust was standard on the 427 bit not on the 396 but otherwise what parts were different?



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Pretty much the cam. 396/325 had the same cam as a later 427/335. 396/350 shared a cam with 427/390

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Can you say it in French ?

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1966-PONTIAC-GRANDE-PARISIENNE-COUPE-AUTOMOBILE-ORIGINAL-AD-IN-FRENCH/193372367230?hash=item2d05e4297e:g:1jUAAOSwn4BeYsva

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Uhh......oui!

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https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1966-PONTIAC-PARISIENNE-Sport-Coupe-Magazine-Print-AD/123790445837?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Dc3ef75f88a6943558962d55eba95d99c%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D193372367230%26itm%3D123790445837%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWeb&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

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I have the English version like that, seems to me it might be a small page, like Reader's Digest or something.

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Even the brochures were beautiful. 



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It's a weird ad. I've had it hanging in my garage for a few years to give me inspiration but it actually shows a pretty stripped Grande with the standard belts, no tilt, no power windows and no headrests, all of which would make the car a lot more luxurious.

I would have to say the ad department kind of missed the opportunity to actually show options that were available, a great profit makers.



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