Ford is bringing back the Maverick..

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Ford is bringing back the Maverick..

gparis7 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Not sure I like this one and for me a Maverick will always be the small economy car introduced in 1970.

However, I think there is probably a market for the small pickup that the manufacturers abandoned after the S10, Ranger, small Tacoma, etc. were dropped.

Greaser · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

https://fordauthority.com/2020/05/we-render-the-bronco-sport-like-2022-ford-maverick-compact-pickup/

You Call That A Truck?

This vehicle with a unibody that doesn't separate the box from the cab,runs with a front wheel drive three cylinder,

and automatic only, just doesn't interest me.

They can call it a Maverick if they want, but calling this a "truck" may be their biggest mistake.

A small truck has always suited me better than a big truck. I've had 2 Nissan D21 trucks, and I loved the size.

Rust killed them both,but they were great for what I needed. Four cylinder,frame, rear wheel drive.

Hopefully Chevy actually does compete and makes a real small "truck".

Now wanting a small truck,I'll be keeping an eye out for a good used Sonoma/S 10 with a manual transmission.

This Maverick is like the 1980 Dodge Rampage or Holden Ute or 1979 VW Rabbit truck.

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MC · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I don't think it's accurate to compare it to the Rampage, etc. Those are more like utes - basically small versions of the El Camino, which was always considered cool, but not a 'real' truck.

This appears to appeal to those who want to have a small light duty truck but still want to be able to haul their family around in it. From the pic, it appears to have decent ground clearance, and will have an all wheel drive version, more like a pickup version of the small sport utilities (it's based off the Bronco).

FWIW, I don't think many people actually use their trucks to full capacity - most overbuy capabilities they will never use - so a small truck like this makes perfect sense for them.

I don't really understand why the companies dropped Rangers and S-10s in favour of turning everything into monster trucks, but at least this seems like they are starting to understand that there is still a market for smaller pickups.

-- Edited by MC on Sunday 10th of May 2020 12:18:13 PM

beaumontguru · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

It is a Uni-box, so more like a car than a truck. ya, why do all the trucks have to keep getting bigger and bigger. my 68 GMC is smaller than the new Canyon/colorados. and why do they always insist on making the boxsides and tailgates so tall you cant even see into the box, let alone the liftover hieght is rediculous.

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

beaumontguru wrote:
It is a Uni-box, so more like a car than a truck. ya, why do all the trucks have to keep getting bigger and bigger. my 68 GMC is smaller than the new Canyon/colorados. and why do they always insist on making the boxsides and tailgates so tall you cant even see into the box, let alone the liftover hieght is rediculous.

Right on, I've been thinking about adding one of these to the fleet, nice size and utility for a City Slicker.

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MC · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

beaumontguru wrote:
It is a Uni-box, so more like a car than a truck. ya, why do all the trucks have to keep getting bigger and bigger. my 68 GMC is smaller than the new Canyon/colorados. and why do they always insist on making the boxsides and tailgates so tall you cant even see into the box, let alone the liftover hieght is rediculous.

Yeah, I don't see uni-box as being a negative, as it actually results in a stiffer structure than the typical body-on-frame truck. But I understand what you mean - body on frame is probably still the best for heavy-duty trucks, though I'm curious as to whether the companies are considering uni-box designs for future larger trucks.

Totally agree with your comments about how difficult the newer trucks are to use in comparison to the old ones.

long stroke · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I always thought the Maverick was a half decent looking car, especially considering it was a bargain basement car. It did well in Pro Stock for sure. It buried the Falcon and i for one would rather have a falcon, but still the Maverick was A OK.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

beaumontguru wrote:
It is a Uni-box, so more like a car than a truck. ya, why do all the trucks have to keep getting bigger and bigger. my 68 GMC is smaller than the new Canyon/colorados. and why do they always insist on making the boxsides and tailgates so tall you cant even see into the box, let alone the liftover hieght is rediculous.

My biggest complaint about the new trucks. At slightly over 6' I can't get stuff in or out of the box? How does a guy who is average height or even a little bit less do it? Open the gate every flippin' time.....frustrating. Getting in and out of the cabs is another story.

More reasons I love my 97...

Pritch · Guru

I can certainly see the new Bronco lines in this Maverick. Size wise and, having owned 4 Ford Rangers and, currently, a 2010 Ranger with 40,000km, I do not foresee the need to purchase a new truck anytime soon. However, when I do, it will most definitely be another Ford Ranger. I am so very pleased that Ford started making them again. I would not consider any other brand of compact truck when it comes to reliability, looks, and quality.

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I don't know. I think there is a waiting market for a new modern compact pickup. The current "Compact" offerings from the big guys are too big.

Pritch · Guru

I tend to agree, Mark. Plus, the prices of these "compacts" are not very appealing either. There is not a heck of a difference between the price of a a compact and regular size truck.

DonSSDD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Ranger, Tacoma, Colorado, etc $30-65,000, nothing compact about the price. These things will compete in the small suv price range likely, low $20s to low 30s. Kinda like a small ridgeline? May sell on price as a small suv with a truck box.

Prefectca · Poncho Master!

I think that Ford is trying to get into the same market as the Honda Ridgeline. My brother has a Ridgeline he bought new and has over 300K on it. He says that its the best vehicle he has ever owned. The only maintenance other than oil changes has been brakes and tires. He likes it so much he is going to drive it till it dies.

Paul

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

Toy truck.

HK1837 · Addicted!

Greaser wrote:
https://fordauthority.com/2020/05/we-render-the-bronco-sport-like-2022-ford-maverick-compact-pickup/
You Call That A Truck?
This vehicle with a unibody that doesn't separate the box from the cab,runs with a front wheel drive three cylinder,
and automatic only, just doesn't interest me.
They can call it a Maverick if they want, but calling this a "truck" may be their biggest mistake.
A small truck has always suited me better than a big truck. I've had 2 Nissan D21 trucks, and I loved the size.
Rust killed them both,but they were great for what I needed. Four cylinder,frame, rear wheel drive.
Hopefully Chevy actually does compete and makes a real small "truck".
Now wanting a small truck,I'll be keeping an eye out for a good used Sonoma/S 10 with a manual transmission.

This Maverick is like the 1980 Dodge Rampage or Holden Ute or 1979 VW Rabbit truck.

At least the Holden ute at various stages was available with engines as big and powerful as an LSA (well at least in a HSV which technically isn't a Holden but it is based upon a Holden):

https://www.hsv.com.au/see/maloor8lsa/

This was a Maverick in Australia, a re-badged Nissan Patrol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Patrol#/media/File:1988-1994_Ford_Maverick_wagon_02.jpg

MC · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Prefectca wrote:
I think that Ford is trying to get into the same market as the Honda Ridgeline. My brother has a Ridgeline he bought new and has over 300K on it. He says that its the best vehicle he has ever owned. The only maintenance other than oil changes has been brakes and tires. He likes it so much he is going to drive it till it dies.

Paul

Yup, lots of people who own them feel that way, even though others say it's not a 'real truck', like it's some kind of badge of honour or 'man card' thing. I suspect the Maverick will be a little smaller than the Ridgeline, though I don't have dimensions to back this up. It will be interesting to see how these sell once they get out in the market. If they do well, everybody will be making them...

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

MC wrote:
Yup, lots of people who own them feel that way, even though others say it's not a 'real truck', like it's some kind of badge of honour or 'man card' thing.

Not "honour" or a "man-card thing", a practicality thing. This Maverick is not a "real Truck", as well as the Ridgeline.

If you only saw what is in the box of my truck right at this moment ... I can go out in our beautiful, cool, rainy weather and take a picture if you like. biggrin

MC · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Pontiacanada wrote:
MC wrote:
Yup, lots of people who own them feel that way, even though others say it's not a 'real truck', like it's some kind of badge of honour or 'man card' thing.
Not "honour" or a "man-card thing", a practicality thing. This Maverick is not a "real Truck", as well as the Ridgeline.
If you only saw what is in the box of my truck right at this moment ... I can go out in our beautiful, cool, rainy weather and take a picture if you like.

No need, I can only imagine. biggrin

And I said "others", not everybody. I know folks (not friends... lol) who have big trucks that maybe use them as trucks once a year, if that. What lands in it from a snowfall is the most the bed ever carries, but they like the truck image.

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

MC wrote:
Pontiacanada wrote:
MC wrote:
Yup, lots of people who own them feel that way, even though others say it's not a 'real truck', like it's some kind of badge of honour or 'man card' thing.
Not "honour" or a "man-card thing", a practicality thing. This Maverick is not a "real Truck", as well as the Ridgeline.
If you only saw what is in the box of my truck right at this moment ... I can go out in our beautiful, cool, rainy weather and take a picture if you like.
No need, I can only imagine.
And I said "others", not everybody. I know folks (not friends... lol) who have big trucks that maybe use them as trucks once a year, if that. What lands in it from a snowfall is the most the bed ever carries, but they like the truck image.

Ya, just imagine 1/8th. of a rotted, squirrel/rat/racoon-infested shed. Yum. Now finish your breakfast. biggrin

Old picture:

MC · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Pontiacanada wrote:
MC wrote:
Pontiacanada wrote:
MC wrote:
Yup, lots of people who own them feel that way, even though others say it's not a 'real truck', like it's some kind of badge of honour or 'man card' thing.
Not "honour" or a "man-card thing", a practicality thing. This Maverick is not a "real Truck", as well as the Ridgeline.
If you only saw what is in the box of my truck right at this moment ... I can go out in our beautiful, cool, rainy weather and take a picture if you like.
No need, I can only imagine.
And I said "others", not everybody. I know folks (not friends... lol) who have big trucks that maybe use them as trucks once a year, if that. What lands in it from a snowfall is the most the bed ever carries, but they like the truck image.
Ya, just imagine 1/8th. of a rotted, squirrel/rat/racoon-infested shed. Yum. Now finish your breakfast.

LOL... nice!

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people owning or wanting trucks, just a problem with people putting down what others own. The 'man card' thing comment relates to some kind of expectation from some people (not saying you or anyone on this board) that you aren't a 'man' unless you have a big truck. I could explicitly say what I think of comments like that or of the self esteem of such people who make those comments, but I won't... biggrin

It's all good. I like trucks, but mostly old trucks. Would love to have a '60-'66 Chev or GMC, and I may one day.

The huge new trucks, with the ads showing some dude dropping a pallet of cinder blocks from 10 feet into the bed and then towing a 50' boat up a hill while passing other 'lesser' trucks to show how manly and tough the trucks are is laughable, but it all comes from this mythology created in the corner offices of some Manhattan advertising firm. Sure, on spec the new trucks are impressive, but as other posters have mentioned the liftover is excessive and the bed height is so high they have to build steps into the tailgate. Then they build 'small' trucks that are still too big and too high to be practical trucks. Like they are caricatures of trucks - cartoons.

Nope, the makers had trucks just right in the sixties through the nineties, then they went nuts. I won't even mention what this has done to the price of them...

OK... rant finished. wink

ABC123 · Uber Guru

I only got a truck when U-Haul would no longer allow me to tow stuff with the 2011 Crown Victoria.

Miss that car.

Funny, they always seemed to have had a truck to rent me at that point.

Used trucks are even more overpriced than new ones.

That's a supply and demand item as most 1-3 year old trucks around here, are shipped to the states leaving us with what they don't want.

The new Ford replaces the Ford Focus wagon that they were to import.

Yep, this will be an off shore car with the roof line altered to sell it as a "truck"

I always had trucks but I did really well in the last 10 years with a car and a utility trailer.

MC · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

A mechanic co-worker/friend of mine had one of those Ranger-based Mazda trucks that he bought new. When it finally rotted out he didn't replace it as he figured out he could haul most of what he needed with a Civic and a utility trailer. Sounds funny, I know, but he makes it work.

On a side note, when I was a kid, we used to marvel at the Airstream travel caravans that used to come to town at least once a summer. It was a group of folks who used to travel around together and would usually arrange to set up in the parking lots of local malls, etc. Usually would be about 20 campers, but sometimes more, and these Airstreams were huge. Not one of them used a truck, just about every one of those trailers was hauled around by a full size car, like a big Buick with a 455, LTDs or Mercury Marquis with 460s, Chryslers with 440s, etc.

I'm thinking that many people who own these big trucks might have instead bought these big cars if they were still available... if the advertising people hadn't caught on to the idea that the 'rugged truck image' was a goldmine...

HK1837 · Addicted!

MC wrote:
Prefectca wrote:
I think that Ford is trying to get into the same market as the Honda Ridgeline. My brother has a Ridgeline he bought new and has over 300K on it. He says that its the best vehicle he has ever owned. The only maintenance other than oil changes has been brakes and tires. He likes it so much he is going to drive it till it dies.

Paul
Yup, lots of people who own them feel that way, even though others say it's not a 'real truck', like it's some kind of badge of honour or 'man card' thing. I suspect the Maverick will be a little smaller than the Ridgeline, though I don't have dimensions to back this up. It will be interesting to see how these sell once they get out in the market. If they do well, everybody will be making them...

Sad thing is, if they do take off GM used to have the Holden ute. It is basically the same car as a Pontiac G6/G8 or Chevrolet SS sedan, just has a longer wheelbase. But GM shut down production in Australia about 2 years ago and the car is lost forever. The final Holden ute wasn't a small car, they weighed near to 2 tonnes (2000kg) and were quite large. Problem with them though is they could not tow much as they had an independent rear suspension - this is the reason I never bought one. They used to make a cab-chassis version, and Ford did too in Australia. Both could tow up to about 2300kg dependant upon which driveline. Both were rated to carry 1000kg as well in some variants.

http://australiancar.reviews/reviews.php#!content=review&make=Holden&model=One%20Tonner&gen=344

https://www.motoring.com.au/ford/falcon-ute/car-reviews/

Whist the Ford lacked a V8 in later years it did have a wicked turbocharged 4.0L straight 6 that was a weapon even in standard form. A few mods and they were easily over 400hp.

-- Edited by HK1837 on Tuesday 12th of May 2020 07:18:27 PM

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

MC wrote:
The huge new trucks, with the ads showing some dude dropping a pallet of cinder blocks from 10 feet into the bed and then towing a 50' boat up a hill while passing other 'lesser' trucks to show how manly and tough the trucks are is laughable, but it all comes from this mythology created in the corner offices of some Manhattan advertising firm. Sure, on spec the new trucks are impressive, but as other posters have mentioned the liftover is excessive and the bed height is so high they have to build steps into the tailgate. Then they build 'small' trucks that are still too big and too high to be practical trucks. Like they are caricatures of trucks - cartoons.

I agree. The macho truck commercials (and macho truck wars) have been going on for decades now.

I just need a basic "stripper" long box/reg. cab truck for the size ... for filling full of "stuff". I don't smoke Marlboros.