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Not leaving without this car!


With all the forest fires in the region last week, and still around, I was ready to load the hauler and SD. There is no way this car would be left behind, it is irreplaceable. The winds are favorable now but the air quality is hazardous and visibility is about 500 yards, the convertible needs rain.

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Where is the fire now Kelvin? It's unreal the situation you guys have going on there.

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Man what a scary year for you guys and California. I hope there are calm winds and big showers ahead for you to get things under control. We remember it like yesterday when it roared through the valley in 2003 and devoured 240+ houses up.

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Wow! Where do you live?

 



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Canadian Poncho wrote:

Where is the fire now Kelvin? It's unreal the situation you guys have going on there.


 Fires are about 10 miles east of us, they were heading this way on Tuesday and Wednesday because of high westerly winds but winds have changed now, it is impossible to get any updates on where it is and as crazy as it is, have to watch news and listen to radio for warnings. I think we are out of the woods but guys I work with in Portland are evacuated, which is crazy when you think of major suburbs in a city possibly getting destroyed.



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Wow! Where do you live?

 


 I am in Roseburg Oregon, three major Oregon cities are under threat with these, and last Monday there wasn't any fires.



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Man what a scary year for you guys and California. I hope there are calm winds and big showers ahead for you to get things under control. We remember it like yesterday when it roared through the valley in 2003 and devoured 240+ houses up.


 Yes, we don't want a repeat of Ft Mac here, that was terrible



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Well, at least some nice light for car shots.

As you mention the lack of info from the authorities on the whereabouts of the fire, I've been watching this youtube channel for a long time now, and he goes on to describe the frightening and utter lack of coordination in northern California.

Stay safe...



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Lt1 Burb wrote:
StriperSS wrote:

Wow! Where do you live?

 


 I am in Roseburg Oregon, three major Oregon cities are under threat with these, and last Monday there wasn't any fires.


 I'm in the Okanagan valley, like Jerel, and we've lived with this off and on for years. In 1994 1/3 of Penticton was evaquated because of a fast moving fire that changed direction and doubled back over itself in minutes. We had 2 families staying with us for a few days because the facilities were absolutely overwhelmed. Even now, we have 'go-bags' packed and ready to go at a moments notice that contain the basic needs, and our important stuff is close at hand so we can be gone in minutes!



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My heart goes out to you guys down there.  This is a hundred times worse than McMurray as we only had the one fire to try to stop and nobody got killed by the fire. 



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StriperSS wrote:
Lt1 Burb wrote:
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Wow! Where do you live?

 


 I am in Roseburg Oregon, three major Oregon cities are under threat with these, and last Monday there wasn't any fires.


 I'm in the Okanagan valley, like Jerel, and we've lived with this off and on for years. In 1994 1/3 of Penticton was evaquated because of a fast moving fire that changed direction and doubled back over itself in minutes. We had 2 families staying with us for a few days because the facilities were absolutely overwhelmed. Even now, we have 'go-bags' packed and ready to go at a moments notice that contain the basic needs, and our important stuff is close at hand so we can be gone in minutes!


My buddy flys for Connair and is stationed in Penticton for the summer, his season is over and it was a very slow year thankfully, I said anytime you want to come down.  



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Well, at least some nice light for car shots.

As you mention the lack of info from the authorities on the whereabouts of the fire, I've been watching this youtube channel for a long time now, and he goes on to describe the frightening and utter lack of coordination in northern California.

Stay safe...


 Its crazy with technology today that we still have to rely on the emergency broadcasts that come out on the radio, I actually am paying attention now. And the utter disregard for forest management is a main reason these fires are out of hand, it is unbelievable how much fuel is on the ground, I guess the spotted owl is not better off now. I think they have 275 fighters on a 130,000 acre fire, poor guys are undermanned by about 2000 guys. 



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wish you guys the best down south an epic disaster yr dont leave that sweet truck behind either!

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I understand the Governor of Oregon attempted to enact legislation in Jan. 2020 to apply fire hazard and blding and various cautionary measures. She was obstructed and denied by GOP majority. no no no.



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I understand the Governor of Oregon attempted to enact legislation in Jan. 2020 to apply fire hazard and blding and various cautionary measures. She was obstructed and denied by GOP majority. no no no.



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I understand the Governor of Oregon attempted to enact legislation in Jan. 2020 to apply fire hazard and blding and various cautionary measures. She was obstructed and denied by GOP majority. no no no.


 Oregon is Democrat majority, and they have everything needed to pass whatever they want but the problem started with the federal government decades ago and their poor forest management practices. 



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after the fires here in australia, hearing and seeing what is happening is terrible. Sad ir will be turned into a political football when allyou need is help and good decision making. Stay safe.



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The real root problem is that, the better we are at suppressing natural wildfires (and I've been a part of that for 40 years), the worse they are when they actually happen, accelerated by insect infestations and drought. In Alberta we have been lucky in that most of the instances of nature correcting itself happens where there are few people, unlike in the states where everybody thinks all the green loveliness they have paid big bucks to move into is permanent landscape.  The idea of raking the forest floor and cleaning it is a stupid concept as, when it gets dry enough, everything is fuel. 



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My father in laws place in Gaspe' backs onto, and runs up small wooded mountain range about a mile and a eighth. Pine, Spruce, fir and cedar, birch along with many other species are evident with much of the older pine and spruce being wiped out by infestations. Not since the 50's has a fire ever come through, so the woods are now absolutely jam packed with dead fuel, so much so it's difficult to even walk through his property outside the trails. When I do, I just shudder at the fact of how volatile all this appears. And it gets a lot of lightning strikes in the summer to boot. But development continues, houses are built and improved without any apparent thought as to what lies in wait.  

So the solution to this...enact a local fire ban.

What else can be done short of logging it?



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Logging is not really a solution as a tremendous amount of ground level fuel gets added from dried out tops and limbs unless you strip the area down to mineral soil which kind of negates the whole idea of living in a forest.  What you usually get after logging, with the normal debris, is a really hot, relatively slow moving surface fire which can only be stopped with heavy equipment breaking up the fuel supported by a lot of water application. The only solution I can think of is to make a really big defensible space around your place (ie firebreaks) and substitute all flammable material on your structures with tin, stucco or such like. 

It won't look like a nice cabin anymore though but, as I say, anybody who thinks the country life landscape will always look the same is living in a fools paradise.

Sorry, massive derail, but I've seen so much boneheaded development that we are supposed to somehow protect, inserting itself into forested areas that it makes me a bit peeved. You cant stop nature from doing what it will do. The best you can do is to delay it.



-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Sunday 13th of September 2020 08:59:20 PM

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39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

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Since the bad fires we had in Australia last Summer I have been working on a defence. We were spared but could cop it at any stage. I have a 5000 Imperial Gallon (23000L) water tank full with both electric and fuel pumps feeding a 1" copper fire main with two 30m hose reels and a switchable sprinkler setup for the shed and house roofs and a couple wetting down the ground in front of the house and at the back of the shed. Idea is I can wet everything down quickly to minimise ember attack, and then put the sprinklers on to keep the house and shed covered, probably 60-70% of the water will run back to the tank. If I lose power I can quickly start the petrol firefighter pump and run it. It will run for about two hours at 1/4 throttle which is all it needs for the sprinkers, so if we have to leave I can start it and leave and hopefully it keeps the area wet enough to stop ember attack.

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Stay safe!

Raking thousands and thousands of acres of forest ... impossible.no



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I've always thought selective logging was a sensible thing. Multiple fire breaks and such.

 

There is a video I have seen online where a fire had just swept through and someone returned to the scene to find 2 gutted cars and 2 skeletons.  no  Please plan your escape and include some traffic jam time. The Beaumont is the one to save. Late model stuff is late model stuff and is more easily replaced. You and your loved ones are irreplaceable, practice your escape drill repeatedly. Gotta portable fire extinguisher? Bring it!

Is  this a bad time to bring up the subject of a fireproof safe?



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Today the skies here in PEI were hazy. Turns out it was the smoke from those wildflires!

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When I was in Canada coming up on 2 years ago it was very smoky in Alberta and BC from fires in BC and California. One day the Icefields Parkway was so smoky you couldn't see very far. It rained that night and cleared it all up for a day or so.
I was in New Zealand in February up on the top of some of the South Island Glaciers, and the snow was all "pink", turns out it was fallout from the bushfires in Australia over Summer.

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