Dogdish generally refers to any of the bottom of the car line small caps (also known as poverty caps) that are only big enough to cover the wheel studs/nuts vs. a full wheel cover.
I've seen the term used from cars on the 50's, 60's, 70's and even some of the 80's cars still had them.
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
What did they use in the late 60s, the American cars used a cap that had Pontiac Motor Division embossed on them so I guess they used a different one in Canada?
-- Edited by North on Tuesday 6th of April 2021 02:53:03 PM
In 1970 US dogdish switched to the same design but with pontiac embossed twice. Perhaps this was a case of The US cars stealing a Canadian part instead otheother way around?
do the dog dish ones come made for 15 inch rims as well? I have 4-14 inch original full caps for a 66 Parisienne but now have 15 inch rims so if anyone has a set that will fit mine let me know. i will buy or trade
Here's the Canadian equivalent to what North posted:
They're called "Dog Dish" as if you set them face down they're basically a dog dish. I've also heard them called Pie Plate.
Just as an FYI:
Those are not "Canadian equivalent"; They are actually one-year caps; The 1967-1971 caps read "PONTIAC MOTOR DIVISION"; The 1972-only caps read "PONTIAC PONTIAC"
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red on black (std) interior 350hp, Hurst shifted Muncie 3 speed, steel wheels w/poverty caps 1:411 1970 Firebird Formulas originally sold in Canada
For some reason, some cars got this style. But I don't know the rules.
$50 each ?
What's wrong with Kijiji lately (oh, wrong post)
If someone buys 3 for that price, they can donate $50 to Canadian Poncho and I will mail you the 4th
I have 5. 4of them not for sale.
I believe they ALL originally had the reliefs painted black, but the black paint could fade, and seems more susceptible to fading on the (Canadiain made IIRC) 1972 caps.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red on black (std) interior 350hp, Hurst shifted Muncie 3 speed, steel wheels w/poverty caps 1:411 1970 Firebird Formulas originally sold in Canada
con someone post a pic of what you guys call dogdish caps?
Thanks
Woody
As mentioned before, the name "dog dish" is purely a nick name, that probably derives from them resembling a dog's water dish.
These are the base caps that 1960's (and others) vehicles would get if no full sized hub cap or rally wheel was opted. There is a myriad of different designs based on model year, manufacturer or division ect.
Depending on the car's original colour, the steel wheels could have been painted body colour, or black - and with these style caps you ALWAYS saw the outer perimeter of the wheel, as these essentially covered the centre of the wheel and covered the vehicles lug nuts.
Here is a no wheel/cap optioned 1973 Firebird Formula:
Here is a no wheel/cap optioned 1976 Formula Firebird:
1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red on black (std) interior 350hp, Hurst shifted Muncie 3 speed, steel wheels w/poverty caps 1:411 1970 Firebird Formulas originally sold in Canada
Here is the "American version" as seen on my 69 Ventura wagon, they are the factory original and they do fit on both 14 and 15" wheels from that era. BTW, the actual changeover was mid 70 model year, early 70 American models would have the Pontiac Motor Division hubcap but later 70 production would have the Pontiac Pontiac ones. This is even confirmed by factory promo photos.