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66 Bonneville Disassembly Advice


Alright, just looking for some tips on the following. So when I go up to see my car I am prepared And know what to expect..

will label and bag the parts

I am aiming to disassemble these before it goes to the shop

-front clip/grille

-bumpers (is it just the 4 bolts for the front Bumper?)

-chrome siding/ chrome along doors (I think the siding on the bottom is just screws holding it in place)

-windshield and glass

I did buy the CD of the manuals except that I forgot my computer doesnt have a disc slot so I cant look at the diagrams.

 

thanks in advance and for any tips



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How about getting an external DVD drive for your computer? I've seen them at Best Buy or Staples for about $40.00. 



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Use your phone and take a crap ton of pictures of everything at every stage of the disassembly process. Take the shots from every practical angle and distance. Use the flash. Remove a bolt, take a shot of it pinched between your fingers next to where it came out of. Write the location on any fender shims. This move will save you from much panic later as the memory fades over time. Download them all to a file on your PC with a description, and move that to a thumb drive as you go along.

I bet if you took enough shots you could simply put everything unlabeled in one bag and still get it together later. But don't lose your phone if you're not downloading the images...

 

Unplug the markers/signals, support the bumper in the center with a floor jack, slightly loosen the rearward bumper bracket to frame bolts, remove the forward bolts and the bumper will swing down on the jack. Remove the rears.

Front/Rear glass is best DIY removed in the hot sun (or a hot shop), and the sealer won't be too happy when cold and hard. A 90 degree pick works good to pop the molding clips if you don't have the tool.

I have a couple of decent suction handles Mike you can borrow to help you handle the glass if you'd like.

 



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Thanks guys,
I didnt even think about external dvd drive. Amazon has them on sale now too.

Thanks Mark for the advice. Thats what the shop had told me as well for pictures, Take lots of them and at every angle as well.
I just have to worry about dissembling the outside trim, chrome, glass for now and larger parts of the interior (except dash they will do). Most of interior is done already.

Is there a better method for removing the glass? Use the cable and saw back and forth or tool/knife to cut the sealer?

Whats the best way to remove the drip rail chrome?

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you have to start a build thread with lots of pictures. I will be waiting for you to start one



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70 SS ACADIAN wrote:

you have to start a build thread with lots of pictures. I will be waiting for you to start one


 For sure. I have what I intend to do planned out. Once the shop gets a hold of the car and starts working on it. Will be taking pictures and posting them in a thread!



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Lots of things. Yes bag everything and tag it, even broken/rusted clips need to be saved. Lots of clips are Tinnerman and are no longer available. Die cast side chrome is held on with screws, clips( available from AMES) and hardened pins secured to the trim. These have a bad habit of breaking off and remaining in the clip. There should be round foam pieces around each pin but are either crushed or missing.
If you have the wiper arms off you already know about the extra arm and pivot pin. I have spares if you break one. Also have a wiper motor.
Windshield was glued in with butyl from the factory. Would dry out and pull away from the glass. Instant wet trunk. I have the tool to cut the adhesive. You will most likely break the windshield but they are available. Back window is tempered glass so you can cut it out but take your time. Again bag and tag the clips. Same for interior trim.
I have taken 3 of these cars apart. 2 65's and and a 66 all American. These cars look the same but they are different. PM me or text @ 226-750-0309 to pick test my memory.

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Thanks Bill! Appreciate it.

Im sure I will have lots of questions down the road as well.

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Take things off as assemblies. Front bumper as a whole. Are you doing this at a place where youre going to store the parts ?
Once things are removed, rebuild restore them as that assembly.
That way you can install it back much in the same way.

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65Camino wrote:

Take things off as assemblies. Front bumper as a whole. Are you doing this at a place where youre going to store the parts ?
Once things are removed, rebuild restore them as that assembly.
That way you can install it back much in the same way.


 No. Its going to be crate dropped at the shop. Bag and tag the smaller parts and in a box thats labelled and then on a pallet. Im just removing some of the chrome pieces, bumpers and glass. And they are going directly to the shop With the car. Things got backed up. So more I take off outside, quicker it can be sandblasted or dipped and then they get to body work.

 



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After taking all the pics Mark suggested, take another 1000 or so. The advice to bag and tag is correct, many times you will find you cant remember what you need to find and having the original part helps you know what to find or you have it to use or copy if you cant find the replacement. You can never take too many pictures.

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Start an Excel spreadsheet and list the part and in anothe column list where you hid  that item along with another column for a photo location of the hiding spot.   Next column for part location on vehicle.

And if you cant recall where you put the part it will show up somehow in a category you hadn't checked

 

Create a bag numbering system consistent with your shop manual category's for ease of searching

 

 

 

 

 

 



-- Edited by oshawacliff on Tuesday 12th of October 2021 08:28:35 PM

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thank you all for your input. I will take a lot of everyones advice and apply it.


Got quite a bit done today. A lot more time spent on tagging, bagging and labeling and taking lots of pictures for future reference. 

Here are some pics of the stripped interior so far. I wont post all pics, just of the bulk stuff. I have the bolts lubricated tonight for the front and Rear bumper to disassemble tomorrow. I dont know if you want me to keep this thread going or start a new thread?

As mentioned I will disassemble some. Then its going to the resto shop. Where I will gather more pics afterwords and along the way 

-the housings that are rusted. Are those available aftermarket? 

-outer chrome trim is removed. any tips on removing the side glass?

-any tips on removing the grille?



-- Edited by mike667 on Sunday 17th of October 2021 04:39:35 PM

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You might as well continue on this thread. Those floors look good!

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Thanks. Floors solid. Week area is the driver side. There is a hole there after cleaning up. And then we wont know until it gets sandblasted/media blasted.
Frame is solid as well

 

But got pretty much the whole interior stripped.

Started the outside lights. Fronts already removed. Then the tail lights lol Funny how quick you can go and then get halted by 1 bolt lol. On a role until we got down to 1 bolt/nut on the housings on the lights. 7 out of 8 bolt/nuts can come out so easily. 2 minute job and then ONE bolt can hold back half an hour to an hour. Happened on both taillights lol.




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Got a lot done today.

any suggestions for removing the side glass and quarter glass?

 

thanks, Mike



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Just keep bagging and tagging the hardware for each glass separately and LOTS of pictures once again. Just make sure you do one window at a time and store everything from that one window before you start the next.

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70 SS ACADIAN wrote:

black with red guts and factory AC ? she is a beauty


 Yes. Going to keep it that way as well. A lot of people keep asking if I want to go with black interior? I keep telling them no and I want to stay with the red.

 



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Good detail in the photos.

You will appreciate the high resolution later in the essential restoration process

Cliff



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At the shop now. Will be there for some time..

 

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How long is her sentence?



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cdnpont wrote:

How long is her sentence?


 Lol. Probably a year.. if not more depending on any more product delays.. which is okay then Ill have my dream car/ride..

Then in spring will probably look for something else to cruise around in.



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What did you decide as far as paint etc? Fully stock as built?


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Have a couple of ideas for the paint and the owner gave me a couple more options to think about. So I have an idea but havent picked the final one Im going with yet.

It will not fully be stock built as well. Hes going to do some custom work to it. (No, will not be a donk car if others are wondering lol)

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