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Anyone know electric motors?


I know nothing about electric motors. A friend has a horizontal style band saw that I can buy cheap but it needs a motor. The mounting for the motor is a casting and it's part of the motor housing. He got a quote of $600 which of course isn't an option. 

Can anyone tell me where I would shop for a motor for this saw that would be affordable? As long as some sort of bracket can be mounted to the motor, I can build the remainder of a mounting bracket I'm sure. 

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Looks like 1/3hp 1725rpm is a very common electric motor used in furnaces, etc. Check Amazon.ca and Princess Auto to see available mount types? Might find a used one on Kijiji.

A generator style mount from a 62 or earlier Chevy/Cdn Pontiac can be fabricated to mount anything with the 2 hole mounting bracket.

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Princess Auto will have what you need. We bought one for pumping honey from there a couple of years ago and it worked well. Often they go on sale.


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DonSSDD wrote:

Looks like 1/3hp 1725rpm is a very common electric motor used in furnaces, etc. Check Amazon.ca and Princess Auto to see available mount types? Might find a used one on Kijiji.

A generator style mount from a 62 or earlier Chevy/Cdn Pontiac can be fabricated to mount anything with the 2 hole mounting bracket.


  I see the word Capacitor and am wondering if furnace motors use that as well? I assume it needs to be something with a Capacitor?  (And I have no idea what a Capacitor is or does!)

 



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Princess Auto will have what you need. We bought one for pumping honey from there a couple of years ago and it worked well. Often they go on sale.


 Thanks, I'll check there. I hadn't thought of them.



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A capacitor is used to increase the starting torque of an AC motor. The charge in the capacitor momentarily gives a surge in amperage to get the motor to initially turn. If the capacitor is not working the motor wont start. I would remove the capacitor and have it tested. You may not need to replace the motor. The capacitor would of be a lot cheaper than the motor and should be fairly easy to replace.

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Thanks Paul. Apparently it's not a doubt that the motor is shot, it was smoking and is fried.



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Capacitor start, capacitor run? What is the problem? Does not start? Could be the capacitor is shot. They are usually pretty robust.



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He said the motor was smoking badly and I think he had someone check it out to tell him the motor was shot.

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He said the motor was smoking badly and I think he had someone check it out to tell him the motor was shot.


 Ah, fair enough



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I've been wanting one of these for years. I may just have to give up the 800 bucks for a new one.

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Im not an electrician, but Im pretty sure the capacitor is there only for starting the motor - it has nothing to do with it once its running.
The capacitor is a short term storage device. Apply a voltage and the capacitor stored it, and can deliver a fairly large jolt back into the circuit when required (same as the one in an old points distributor).

Carl, can you show a picture of the whole motor? Is the cast section just one end plate of the motor? Im thinking it might be a C mount motor, and possibly you could swap the mounting bracket onto a new motor?

Or, have this one rewound?
Usually the bearings in the ends go, or (most commonly) the insulation on the windings (the varnish on the copper wire) starts breaking down so it shorts out internally). There are shops around with the equipment to rewind motors. It might be cheaper than you think (except for the sky-high price of copper).

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I am a licensed sparky. Let me look into this. You may use this housing with new guts. Give me 24 hrs. I may even have a motor kicking around.



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Carl, Id be willing to bet the old saw repaired is way better than a new one for $800. Electric motors are about as simple as it gets, the internals are the same as an old car generator. 



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I am a licensed sparky. Let me look into this. You may use this housing with new guts. Give me 24 hrs. I may even have a motor kicking around.


 Thanks Pete, I'll be in touch with you.

 



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The suggestions of rewinding are good but the shop he took to have it checked does rewinding and for some reason they told him the only way was to replace the motor. I'm not sure what the reason was but it's a local shop we both know and trust, they are well experienced so we assume what they said is accurate.

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pontiax wrote:

I am a licensed sparky. Let me look into this. You may use this housing with new guts. Give me 24 hrs. I may even have a motor kicking around.


 I sent you an email Pete.



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