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68 Beaumont SD in Watford Ont


 

Anyone know this car???
 
This is a truly special carthe authentic Matador Red SD 396. Accompanied by the original owners manual and Protect-O-Plate, this exceptionally straight car comes with all the pedigree....
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I don't know the car, but is it ever nice! Oh, to find a set of side mouldings to surround the stripes.

One interesting thing it states that scares me, "The engine is a 396, professionally bored to a 468 cubic inch roller motor".
If it is done via bore as suggested, it would be well into the water jackets.
A 468 is a .060 over 454, which is both a different block from the 396 to accommodate the large bore with revised water jackets, plus a stroker crank.
I saw a reciprocating assembly kit in a 1965-ish Hot Rod magazine to yield an advertised 454 cubic inches from a new 396. Only the earliest 1965 396 blocks could be bored to such a degree because they were designed to be able to go easily from 6.5 litres to 7 litres in racing circles. Once 7 litre was established in Nascar, the new 427 came out and the 396 was recast with more water jacket (thinner bore walls). The cam groove was dropped at that time.

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Nice car wrong stripe

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If the car is as nice as it looks the price seems reasonable. It is about $48,350 in US dollars.

 

Edit to correct: On the dealer site it is priced at $95K CDN so the $68,400 is USD. So I now think it is priced too high.



-- Edited by jfkheat on Sunday 8th of December 2024 09:31:37 PM

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Nice car wrong stripe


 Wrong center caps as well.....hmm



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I'm assuming this is Grogan's in Watford.

Watford is a very small town and this is the only place in Watford that would have a car and a collection like this.

Grogans is also the dealership that appears to have been ripped off of many classic cars over the last 10 or so years.
It's been all over the news lately.

I've been to the Grogan collections and it's quite impressive, but overpriced.

 

Regards, Scott (Landshark ...)



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LandShark68_2+2 wrote:

I'm assuming this is Grogan's in Watford.

Watford is a very small town and this is the only place in Watford that would have a car and a collection like this.

Grogans is also the dealership that appears to have been ripped off of many classic cars over the last 10 or so years.
It's been all over the news lately.

I've been to the Grogan collections and it's quite impressive, but overpriced.

 

Regards, Scott (Landshark ...)


 Agree Scott - always a great collection but their reputation is somewhat suspect....no



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Nice Car, but 1969 and later water pump and alt. and power strg. mounting. Wrong front fender side lights. Also what is with the kick panels with the 2 pull cables. Just saying.

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Nice Car, but 1969 and later water pump and alt. and power strg. mounting. Wrong front fender side lights. Also what is with the kick panels with the 2 pull cables. Just saying.


 Also I think the vinyl top wasn't factory, it has the D99 belt mldg option on the trim plate, not the C08 option. 

The car does look great with the black vinyl top. Good eye Don regarding the kick panels!



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bjburnout wrote:
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Nice car wrong stripe


 Wrong center caps as well.....hmm


 I thought those are right for 67-69 Beaumont, Acadian and full size with disc brakes?



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bjburnout wrote:
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Nice car wrong stripe


 Wrong center caps as well.....hmm


 I thought those are right for 67-69 Beaumont, Acadian and full size with disc brakes?


 1967 only w/J52



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But they look correct for those cars.



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68beaumont wrote:
4SPEED427 wrote:
bjburnout wrote:
694279 wrote:

Nice car wrong stripe


 Wrong center caps as well.....hmm


 I thought those are right for 67-69 Beaumont, Acadian and full size with disc brakes?


 1967 only w/J52


 Just one more thing I either never knew or forgot when I started getting those monthly old age pension cheques.



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4SPEED427 wrote:
68beaumont wrote:
4SPEED427 wrote:
bjburnout wrote:
694279 wrote:

Nice car wrong stripe


 Wrong center caps as well.....hmm


 I thought those are right for 67-69 Beaumont, Acadian and full size with disc brakes?


 1967 only w/J52


 Just one more thing I either never knew or forgot when I started getting those monthly old age pension cheques.


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Center caps are correct along with the side stripes it looks correct and placed well just missing the side moldings good luck finding them, and side markers are also correct for a 68. Tail pipes should be strait out the back and have the oval tips and yes it's very nice car overall other than engine details way over priced if not a #s matching car all original and documented car from day one.



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Center caps are correct along with the side stripes it looks correct and placed well just missing the side moldings good luck finding them, and side markers are also correct for a 68. Tail pipes should be strait out the back and have the oval tips and yes it's very nice car overall other than engine details way over priced if not a #s matching car all original and documented car from day one.


 I had an almost new 68 SD 396 in 1969 and these are not the same caps. As stated here these 'shallow' caps are 67 only.

My 68 still had the orig exhaust being less than a year old and it exited behind the rear tires without any special extension.



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mrford wrote:

Center caps are correct  As Bernie pointed out, they are Beaumont caps but not correct for disc brake 1968 cars, only 1967 disc brake cars.

along with the side stripes it looks correct and placed well just missing the side moldings good luck finding them, and side markers are also correct for a 68. Tail pipes should be strait out the back and have the oval tips

Are you thinking of the 69 SD that had the oval tips, same as the 69-70 Chevelle? Because 68 didn't use those.  and yes it's very nice car overall other than engine details way over priced if not a #s matching car all original and documented car from day one.


 



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bjburnout wrote:
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Center caps are correct along with the side stripes it looks correct and placed well just missing the side moldings good luck finding them, and side markers are also correct for a 68. Tail pipes should be strait out the back and have the oval tips and yes it's very nice car overall other than engine details way over priced if not a #s matching car all original and documented car from day one.


 I had an almost new 68 SD 396 in 1969 and these are not the same caps. As stated here these 'shallow' caps are 67 only.

My 68 still had the orig exhaust being less than a year old and it exited behind the rear tires without any special extension.


 Bernie, the 68-69 rally wheel caps on the Beaumont are the same as 67 if the cars don't have disc brakes though, right? Just that if you got disc brakes on a 67 you got rally wheels with the "DISC BRAKES" ornament on the centre cap? And 68-69 were the small ornament but plain, no writing at all.



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bjburnout wrote:
mrford wrote:

Center caps are correct along with the side stripes it looks correct and placed well just missing the side moldings good luck finding them, and side markers are also correct for a 68. Tail pipes should be strait out the back and have the oval tips and yes it's very nice car overall other than engine details way over priced if not a #s matching car all original and documented car from day one.


 I had an almost new 68 SD 396 in 1969 and these are not the same caps. As stated here these 'shallow' caps are 67 only.

My 68 still had the orig exhaust being less than a year old and it exited behind the rear tires without any special extension.


 Bernie, the 68-69 rally wheel caps on the Beaumont are the same as 67 if the cars don't have disc brakes though, right? Just that if you got disc brakes on a 67 you got rally wheels with the "DISC BRAKES" ornament on the centre cap? And 68-69 were the small ornament but plain, no writing at all.


 IMHO GM only supplied the small caps for 67. The larger cap that came out in 68 did not have script IIRC....smile.

Pretty sure 68 onward only had the larger cap and no script. From 66 thru to late 80s my brother had several used car lots

and we would pickup many trades from new dealers and drive them for a while then change up as we sold them. I was

very particular on the trim levels and they started calling me the 'Emblem Master' as I would notice any wrong emblems or similar

trim replaced or misplaced by body shops.

Body shops then were notorious for ripping off wheel discs and hub caps for their own and putting someting else in place and hope no

one noticed - but I did!no



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...because Rally Wheels for 1968 became a free-agent option. No longer tied to or restricted to disk brakes. Be careful you don't stumble onto a 1968-70 drum brake Rally Wheel that won't clear disk brakes!

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So, these are the correct centercaps for the 68 and 69 Beaumonts with disc brakes? Sorry for the blurry picture.

 



-- Edited by jfkheat on Tuesday 10th of December 2024 01:54:01 AM

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jfkheat wrote:

So, these are the correct centercaps for the 68 and 69 Beaumonts with disc brakes? Sorry for the blurry picture.

 



-- Edited by jfkheat on Tuesday 10th of December 2024 01:54:01 AM


 Yes James they are correct . 



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In AMA SPECIFICATIONS - PASINGER CAR  says you could get front disc brakes only in every model Beaumont code J52 you could get rally wheels from the dealer so disc brake or no disc brake center caps work on any 1968 Beaumont. If you look at the 68 dealer brochure on the last page of wheel cover options it shows a wire wheel cover that uses the same center caps as a rally wheel with no script. On a 68 Beaumont NO TALL CAPS. 



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My car originally was that Matador red with a white roof an interior went with grotto blue with no regrets.  Added disc brakes to all 4 wheels with 15 x 7  1968  Corvette rally wheels one year only that fit the 3" trim rings an dropped all 4 corners 2" corners super nice going through withdrawal,sure looking forward to spring  



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