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Does anyone have a 67 Beaumont, Chevelle, Lemans, GTO, Skylark, Cutlass, any A body that they can tell me what the rear coil springs look like?

I would like to know if the top of the springs look like the black ones in the picture or the older rusty looking springs.

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Off the top of my head,  the rusty ones are 67 and the black ones look more like 64/65 style.
Funny that the black ones are so "pointy" at the top, the 64/65s are usually a bit flatened on the top coil.

I will double check my 67 coils in the morning, i have a set sitting in the back of my truck.  Update to follow.

Anyone heading to the classic car auction near grafton on saturday morning?

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Thanks, that would be great.

The black are brand new Eibach. Their tech line says this 67 must have the wrong springs in it. I say the tech guy is wrong. TRW lists the 67 spring as being pigtail at both ends, just like the rusty one in the picture.

When installed, the black springs lift the car 1/2" instead of lowering it 1" like it's supposed to.

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Those black springs would probably work awesome in the wagon.biggrin

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They will be for sale if they are wrong for this car. I will keep you posted

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rusty ones are correct... they engage in a raised pad on top and bottom... do you have a pic or measurements of the current ride height? i bought my most recent set at piston ring (stock replacement) and they dropped my back end a bit... i also have 2 sets on the shelf, 1" up, and 1" lower yet...

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It's got some junky old tires on it right now, so I will make sure they get changed before taking pics for you.

Thanks, I was sure I was right on this one, pigtail both ends for 67.

Now I suppose I will have a fight on my hands to return them. They could end up under a certain 64 wagon...

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson at 00:33, 2008-09-19

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In case you did not get an answer yet. I have a '67 Beaumont SD and my springs are the same as the black springs you have shown.

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Leo wrote:

In case you did not get an answer yet. I have a '67 Beaumont SD and my springs are the same as the black springs you have shown.


        2 answers no  who is correct?



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Leo wrote:

In case you did not get an answer yet. I have a '67 Beaumont SD and my springs are the same as the black springs you have shown.


Really.....evileye

That really thickens the plot. It is interesting that the top of the frame channel/crossmember was made that the black ones seemed to sit fine in the area at the top of the spring, even though there is a cup there for the pigtail. If so, then why bother with the pig tail at the top of the rusty ones

I really appreciate your help on this. Any more guys with experience on this?

 



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I parted a 67 beaumont and a 67 chevelle this year.  Both cars has pigtails at both ends.

What about a 66 car?

Is it possible that the really early 67s had a carryover from 66?

I'll have to check my other 67's to see.

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If I recall right, his car is not that early. Mid December I think. by then any leftovers would have easily made it out of the system.

And honestly, I always hear those stories of leftover/carryover parts and I don't think I've ever experienced such a thing in 28 years of doing GM parts.

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Hi Carl, its possible the black ones you have are that way to save some $ in production, and they may work in a 67, but i have 3 sets, with pigtails on each end...there is a rubber busing on each end agains the body or differential seat, i wonder how the black ones would sit against the floor sheet metal? I.e. is there a big rubber pad or something? Leo, do yours just sit against the sheet metal? It sits nice. (Nice car BTW)

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My biggest concern is that they would be noisy. They fit fine in there, sitting flat.





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My 64 uses the above style.(no pigtail).  factory used a rubber 1/2 round that slipped over the top coil. about a 8 " piece.

I would suggest using a piece of 3/4" heater hose, sliced lengthwise.  set it overtop of the coil so it acts as a rubber cushion.

Hope i explained that OK?!

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My thoughts exactly except I am hoping to find a factory piece for him. I think there must be something out there like that.

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606796.jpgCarl Stevenson wrote:

My thoughts exactly except I am hoping to find a factory piece for him. I think there must be something out there like that.


       ECKLERS Chevelle parts (chevy)  # 606796 $19.95 biggrin



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I haven't even checked yet, the originals could still be available too.

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As much as 66 and 67 cars look alike the frames are different. Check the parts books, different number. And the only difference is the pocket that the top of the rear spring fits into.
The 64 thru 66 springs are full size at the top and tappered at the bottom. The 67 are tappered at both the top and bottom.
Black = 64 thru 66
rusted =67

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As much as 66 and 67 cars look alike the frames are different. Check the parts books, different number. And the only difference is the pocket that the top of the rear spring fits into.
The 64 thru 66 springs are full size at the top and tappered at the bottom. The 67 are tappered at both the top and bottom.
Black = 64 thru 66
rusted =67


Agreed. I couldn't convince the tech guy at Eibach that though. I was not that impressed with their tech support. A car as common as a GM A body should carry pretty good tech support in my mind and that was sure not the case.

 



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Spent a lot of time and effort researching A body frames to find 1 that would fit under my 64 Beaumont convertible.
The Chevelles interchange with Beaumont but if memory serves me the American Pontiac mid-size don't. I remember that the Olds mid size front horns flair outward up by the bumper brackets .


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Looking for advice about replacement coil springs

Looking to replace springs in my 67 Beaumont as it needs a lift. I want to achieve stock ride height. I have been told to make sure to order for BBC W/auto trans for front springs as TH400 is heavier than 4 speed. Have questions about rears though, standard, heavy duty, or sedan, wagon? Also Brands? and Suppliers? What would be some of the things I should asking about when ordering? Suggestions Please.

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go to local parts store     tell them you want Moog or AC Delco rear springs    tell them Carl Stevenson sent you.....

 

 

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took my coils out put in these set hight to my desire front and rear



-- Edited by marshalldude on Sunday 14th of June 2015 07:15:29 PM

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Didn't have any luck locally. I found some springs at "Hot Rods and Classics" in Chilliwack, not sure what brand might be Eibach. "Classic Performance" in Calgary seemed to be high priced $229 a pair not including shipping. Just found - ROCKAUTO.COM they have AC-Delco my preferred manufacture and best prices so far. Now the only question is should I go for a variable rear spring?

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