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Beaumont1stcar


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marshalldude wrote:

took my coils out put in these set hight to my desire front and rear



-- Edited by marshalldude on Sunday 14th of June 2015 07:15:29 PM

Nice! Not in the budget, unfortunately.



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The variable rate are supposed to give stock ride height.

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Beaumont1stcar


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Carl Stevenson wrote:

The variable rate are supposed to give stock ride height.

I'm not sure, shows one inch less load height in description (8"instead of 9").  Looks to have an extra coil. 



-- Edited by Beaumont1stcar on Sunday 14th of June 2015 08:09:44 PM

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They do look different alright. I've used them a few times and been happy with them. I think you can order them in AC Delco for that car too, can't you? (even though they are actually Moog or TRW, I forget which, in the AC Delco box.)

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Think I will go with the variable rate.

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Bought variable rate ones a few years ago, but they were binding, and causing an awful noise!! Carmine at Classic Performance found out what was causing it and changed them out to original springs for a SD... just my experience.. They were from Moog also...


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Beau67SD wrote:

Bought variable rate ones a few years ago, but they were binding, and causing an awful noise!! Carmine at Classic Performance found out what was causing it and changed them out to original springs for a SD... just my experience.. They were from Moog also...

Do you recall if it was the exhaust that was an issue?  I will try and give Classic Perf. a call in the morning see if they can recommend.  Interesting, thanks for the heads up Scott.

Cheers

Wayne



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All Carmine said is the springs were binding...when I went over a bump they had an awful noise!! They replaced them with factory springs, not sure who makes them, but eliminated the problem.

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Installed new coil springs on all four corners. AC-Delco's. Went with variable rate in the rear, changed ride height ~+5/8". Then replaced sagging front coils and blocks and increased ride height ~+1 1/2". Looks very close to factory to me now and should be. Had a bit of a scare though after putting car down on new fronts measured new height at +2 1/2"(almost was looking GASSER). But after a short drive car settled 1 inch in front. This with new shocks and sway bar bushing kit has improved handling so much hard to believe it is same car. Front springs were soooo badno.

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-- Edited by Beaumont1stcar on Sunday 26th of July 2015 03:52:57 PM



-- Edited by Beaumont1stcar on Sunday 26th of July 2015 04:07:13 PM

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67' 2Dr Hrd Top 283 2spd 

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67' 396 SD L-35, TH400, Posi.

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That looks sweet!



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Beaumont1stcar wrote:

Installed new coil springs on all four corners. AC-Delco's. Went with variable rate in the rear, changed ride height ~+5/8". Then replaced sagging front coils and blocks and increased ride height ~+1 1/2". Looks very close to factory to me now and should be. Had a bit of a scare though after putting car down on new fronts measured new height at +2 1/2"(almost was looking GASSER). But after a short drive car settled 1 inch in front. This with new shocks and sway bar bushing kit has improved handling so much hard to believe it is same car. Front springs were soooo badno.



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Going back to the first post at the top of the page, can you tell me what your replacement coils looked like on top? Does the top of your coil look like the rusty springs or the black springs?

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Definitely the rusty ones with pigtails on both ends. 

Cheers,

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Definitely the rusty ones for 67.
That is the difference in 66 vs 67 frames - the pocket the top of the spring fits into.

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I pretty much knew but wanted to confirm that.

I dare any of you to call Eibach and try to tell THEM that.... I gave up, their tech line was a total joke. "Nobody has ever complained before that those springs are wrong for a 67 A body".... Yeah, right. If nobody else has ever called you about that to say they are for 64-66, I'll eat my shorts. What's likely the most common, or at least second most common year for A body? (I'm thinking north America now.) It's either 65 (all those Goats) or 67 ( all those Chevelles). I bet Eibach has sold hundreds, if not thousands of pairs of wrong springs to customers for a 67.

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Beaumont1stcar wrote:

Installed new coil springs on all four corners. AC-Delco's. Went with variable rate in the rear, changed ride height ~+5/8". Then replaced sagging front coils and blocks and increased ride height ~+1 1/2". Looks very close to factory to me now and should be. Had a bit of a scare though after putting car down on new fronts measured new height at +2 1/2"(almost was looking GASSER). But after a short drive car settled 1 inch in front. This with new shocks and sway bar bushing kit has improved handling so much hard to believe it is same car. Front springs were soooo badno.

20150725-IMG_3371.jpg



-- Edited by Beaumont1stcar on Sunday 26th of July 2015 03:52:57 PM



-- Edited by Beaumont1stcar on Sunday 26th of July 2015 04:07:13 PM



By the way, I think that car sits REAL nice with those springs.

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Here's an afterthought. Could have asked the guy for upper spring insulator and then asked him why 64 thru 66 is 1 listing and 67 is separate.
Don't you just love it when they know everything and won't listen?

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When installing variable rate rear coil springs in a 68 Le mans is there a top and bottom to them and do they have to be turned a certain way?

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Can you post a picture of the spring?

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Carl They look like the rusty ones in first post but the coils on one end are closer together than the other.

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If I am right, the closer end winding goes to the top. It's been a while since I've installed those but I'm pretty sure that's how they go.

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Thanks Carl, does the spring have to be spun around with some part pointing in a certain direction?

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Not if it's like on a 67. You can look up in the top pocket where the spring sits but I'm quite sure there's no way to index the spring when you install it like there is on a front spring. Just make sure the pocket is flat where the top will push against it.

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Thanks,very much appreciated.

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No problem, I just hope I'm right!

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Beaumont1stcar wrote:

 

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 Damn that's sexy. smile



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