Legendary Motor Car?

ak 67sd · Poncho Master!

Legendary Motor Car?

eeluddy · Uber Guru

Yes it's worth the trip. Lots of eye candy on display. You might as well buy a car while your there.. idea

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

yes! go! do you have your CAMERA????? Tell them about the GROWING Cdn Pontiac movement

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Like they said. It's well worth the trip. You can tour the shop for a small donation. I took a pile of photos when I was there. You do get a little numb after a while.
"Look, a Hemi Cuda.. Oh, and there's a Boss 429.. and a Yenko..ho hum..."

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

oh and look! a 69 Laurentian 427! called lemon-lime biggrin

SD 396 · Poncho Master!

I don't think the Motorsports Hall of Fame is open through the week. I went there last spring and had a look at the cars. It didn't take too long to see all the roped off cars.

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Imagine Peter doing the road test thing with the Laurentian on Dream Car Garage... You know how he talks on there:
"It's got the 427, it's got the green interior, the endura nose. It's got the four wheel drum brakes. They're only gonna stop ya once"

or Tom Hnatiw:

"Do you NEED a lemon-lime Laurentian? No. Do you WANT a lemon-lime Laurentian? Yes"

427carl wrote:

oh and look! a 69 Laurentian 427! called lemon-lime

-- Edited by 69Laurentian at 21:25, 2008-12-01

gparis7 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Definitely worth a visit. I usually go there every time I'm in Toronto when time permits. Most of their cars are high quality restorations and certainly costly, but there there are some that are more competitively priced. I'll be interested to see if the market generally becomes softer as a result of the recession. One car I love is the gold 70 LS6 Chevelle that I think they still have. It is a superb car, and was priced at $99K when I saw it in June.

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Peter and Dave are both very down to earth car guys that will talk cars or business with you, the memoriblia is nice, theres always a good selection of cars-some may not be as cosmetically up to snuff as you may want to see, that is sometimes due to trying to price more afforadable cars and still make a profit, impressive building-hopefully you can get a tour, there will be a lot of cars there for storage this time of year-one note I was always very surprised at how uninformed the attendants were.

worth the trip

Ken

gparis7 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Agree with you on that last point. The person I talked to did not seem to know much about the cars. Also, there was one in stock that I was interested in. I asked to look at it more closely but was told it was sold, and on that basis was discouraged by the attendant from looking it over the way I wanted to.
Turns out the car was still for sale for about two months afterwards, and it eventually turned up for sale by another Toronto dealer at less than Legendary's ask at the time.
I'm not sure why that happened - maybe not the norm, as they certainly have a great operation there and lots of high quality cars. And it's neat that they do welcome visitors in return for a small donation to charity.

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

Call ahead and say that you are a potential customer and want to see a tour of the restoration facilities, you'll see them working on the cars that will be featured on next year's shows.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

69Laurentian wrote:

Imagine Peter doing the road test thing with the Laurentian on Dream Car Garage... You know how he talks on there:
"It's got the 427, it's got the green interior, the endura nose. It's got the four wheel drum brakes. They're only gonna stop ya once"

or Tom Hnatiw:

"Do you NEED a lemon-lime Laurentian? No. Do you WANT a lemon-lime Laurentian? Yes"

427carl wrote:

Excellent! I love it..

57poncho · Uber Guru

To far of a drive from Winnipeg . So hope to see pics from those who do go.

64 RAG · Addicted!

Has anyone done business with them? One of my neighbours did and was to say the least p____d off with their business ethics.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

I have hear negatives, but never experienced it They sell a lot anyone had a good experience?

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

64 RAG wrote:
Has anyone done business with them? One of my neighbours did and was to say the least p____d off with their business ethics.

Details, we need details, inquiring minds want to know. I have heard some stories as well, that their research efforts in order to get the car "correct" are not always up to snuff.

The true mark of a restoration shop (especially a high end one that charges the big bucks) is how well their efforts do in a nationally judged show. I know Scott Tiemann from Supercar Specialties in Michigan and virtually every Pontiac he has ever restored has gone on to win Best of Show at the GTO nationals or POCI. Has anyone ever heard of how the LMC cars have done at big shows?

64 RAG · Addicted!

He sent his RS SS camaro there. Supplied all the new parts to get the headlight doors working electrically, sent a complete flowmaster exhaust system there to be installed, and wanted them to tune the car (set up the carb etc.). Ended up costing him almost two times what they quoted, they had all kinds of reasons but my point is who the F is quoting prices there?

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

Anyone who has been in the business as long as they have and has the "expertise" they purport to have should not have their quotes out by 50%. I have never heard of anyone coming out of there without having spent an arm and a leg. Someone had to pay for that nice shop - and have you seen Peter's house out back?

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

I remember reading the average resto is 50 grand plus parts and I forget what the percentage was for shop supplies- 5%?

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

sounds right ....

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

69Laurentian wrote:

I remember reading the average resto is 50 grand plus parts and I forget what the percentage was for shop supplies- 5%?

When I wa last assistant manager of a bodyshop (15 years ago) door rate was $48/hour material was 40 % of labour.

1000 hours = $48,000 at that time plus $19,200 in material

a guy around the corner from me spend $82,000 on a 67 Tiger @ QRS I heard the engine hasn't been rebuilt !

Most guys who build a car themselves can't come out ahead-how could anyone dream of coming out ahead if they pay for everything ! I've had customers belly ache about their $10,000 body job-I'm usually amazed theres a shop out there that would do quarters/doors/fenders/floors for that money.

Yes I've heard bad stuff about these guys, come to think of it I do know of any business I haven't heard bad stuff about.

billing double (100% more) is clearly not right but theres always two sides-I had a guy tell me he was quoted $9000 for a body job and it cost him $13,000 but they also painted the dash/firewall/inner fenders/rad support/lifted the body to sandblast throughout/changed bushings etc... sounded like the extra $4000 was well covered to me.

Ken

bottom line try not to pay for a showroom !

SD 396 · Poncho Master!

I did all the body on my 69 and spent years gathering NOS parts to do it. Chris that owns the shop where I had my car painted said it would have been over $20,000 if he would have done all the work and supplied what parts he could find. That's just the body and paint, nothing more.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

wow ! It was obviously worth it, but it is pricey, to get them done I fiqured, my "little" Pontiac was worth 10g, just because, it needed nothing repaired on the body.. The fact that the drive line, and interior were done, was a bonus.. biggrin

-- Edited by 427carl at 22:44, 2008-12-02

ak 67sd · Poncho Master!

going to LMC on friday, will take some pics...

andrew

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

ak 67sd wrote:

going to LMC on friday, will take some pics...

andrew

LMC has owned three Beaumonts a super nice 67 Custom rag (St Thomas Lions raffle car), an ash gold 68 SD396 (my old car) and a yellow 67 SD396 was silver (my old car) Mark bought it from Legendary just a little trivia