stephenzone's 'new' '70 convert

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

RE: stephenzone's 'new' '70 convert

67Poncho · Uber Guru

A+ and to the head of the class for you..........! I was wondering about the THM350 as well, but I have a '70 2+2 h/t here, was a 350, but it had the THM400! And, yes, yes, and yes...How did you know it was a 2+2??

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4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Lucky guess!

Actually, I believe the model 768 is 2+2 is it not? I don't know my 69-70's as well as the 66's so I could be wrong about that.

Are you the (new) owner?

67Poncho · Uber Guru

Will be tomorrow...well today...when I send via paypal. And you are correct on the 768....The only entry for 2+2's.......

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Sure looks good.

I assume we will see updates.............

67Poncho · Uber Guru

I probably won't end up getting it get till spring. It is in B.C. Posted for now, updates a little later....

-- Edited by 67Poncho at 01:43, 2009-01-29

68sd · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

1969 2+2 convertible ,white exterior,350,th350,power windows

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68sd · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

is there any parts the that would be usefull to steve ?i know he wants inner fenders? we know of a mint 69 caprice we have been stripping parts from,anyhing the same?
lower rear quarter
inner fender etc

or just driveline parts?

68sd · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

the reason i ask i because this car is available and the quarters are mint as well as the rest of the car?

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seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I talked to the guy with the 70 rag a few months ago, it was on castanet (or something like that) and is in the BC interior. He dropped his price a bit, but it's still a big project.

67Poncho · Uber Guru

seventy2plus2 wrote:

I talked to the guy with the 70 rag a few months ago, it was on castanet (or something like that) and is in the BC interior. He dropped his price a bit, but it's still a big project.

seventy2plus2, yea, I am sure that's the one. But we have to admit, what 40 year daily driver car isn't a big project? Have you seen pics of my '67 Rag? That was a big project!! I was looking at this '70 a long time ago as well, but I was debating. Since I have other '70 parts cars here plus parts that are pretty near rust free that I removed from cars while I was in Labrador, it shouldn't be too too much of a problem. And since they are ever rarer than the '67 2+2 Rag, I guess that is why I wanted it even more. The '70 rag near here is rough and he wants $6000 for it. And it isn't a 2+2!!
I guess when I get it here I will decide weather or not I should have left it! And on the topic of '70 2+2's, what condition was that h/t in Alberta? You looked at it a while back?
This '70 can't be any worse than my '67! If it is ,God help me!!!

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StriperSS · Poncho Master!

67Poncho wrote:

I probably won't end up getting it get till spring. It is in B.C. Posted for now, updates a little later....

-- Edited by 67Poncho at 01:43, 2009-01-29

So did you buy it, sight unseen? Where in BC is it? Did you need someone to look at it?

I saw this one in Northern Alberta a couple of years ago, but it may not exist anymore. I heard the yard was crushed out.

1964Canso · Guru

Hey poncho,I know the car,and its where abouts.I think you got yourself a good deal if you bought it.Did you ?

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67Poncho · Uber Guru

StriperSS wrote:

67Poncho wrote:

I probably won't end up getting it get till spring. It is in B.C. Posted for now, updates a little later....

-- Edited by 67Poncho at 01:43, 2009-01-29

So did you buy it, sight unseen? Where in BC is it? Did you need someone to look at it?

I saw this one in Northern Alberta a couple of years ago, but it may not exist anymore. I heard the yard was crushed out.

Stripper, I did buy, waiting for his address, unseen but was talking to him and he got some more pics for me to show the car more. There are still a few around here that I do not have in my possession but I do have a fair amount of parts for them, but I always looking for more!!! It is in the Kelowna area.

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67Poncho · Uber Guru

1964Canso wrote:

Hey poncho,I know the car,and its where abouts.I think you got yourself a good deal if you bought it.Did you ?

-- Edited by 1964Canso at 00:49, 2009-01-30

Canso, I think it will be ok. As you see by my pics above, it can't be as bad off as my '67!!! He was suppose to give me his paypal address yesterday so I could pay him but he didn't send it yet. Here are a couple more pics.....He said it was an Alberta car as well, so it may have survived a little better...

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seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

The yellow hardtop in the wrecker yard looks like the one in Peace River. I saw it in Aug 2003. If I recall, I got the turbo 400 kickdown switch from it. I wanted the 2+2 emblems (to add to my collection) but couldn't get the trunk lid open, and busted my magnetic tip screwdriver in the trunk lock. I didn't have time to tinker with it, and had to hit the highway.

I looked at the gold one being parted out on kijiji a while ago, Jan/Feb 2000 if I recall. The owner at that time was VERY suspicious, and I only looked at it for about 5 minutes. I recall each panel being banged in, but it doesn't appear that way in the photo's so I may be thinking of a different car. Like mine, it'salso a "Calgary Motor Products" car, and is a carbon copy of mine. I don't remember it being turbo 400, nor an 8 track car (I'm sure I would have spotted the 8 track), but it was winter when I was there so I didn't crawl underneath. The air cleaner was off though so I should have spotted the turbo 400 kickdown switch. I remember the air cleaner being off as it was in the rear footwell with the spark plugs in it. I talked to the present owner last night (I know him fairly well) and he said someone is buying the engine, tranny & diff, and the interior is also spoken for. I told him to let me know what's left before he hauls it to the dump after it's stripped.

68sd · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

this was on the net

Canadian 2+2
In 1967, GM of Canada debuted the Parisienne 2+2, a sport grand-tourer based on the Parisienne series that replaced the Parisienne Custom Sport from a year earlier. All Pontiac's manufactured and sold in Canada were unique from their US counterparts as GM of Canada fitted re-proportioned US Pontiac bodies to the Chevrolet Impala chassis and drive trains. Canadian purchasers of the 2+2 could therefore order any Chevrolet V8 engine option like the 283 and 327 in³ small-block engines, or the 396 and 427 in³ "Mark IV" big-block. The trim options were slightly different as well, with Chevrolet's 14-inch Rally rims being used instead of the US Pontiac Motor Division's Kelsey-Hayes "8-lug" integral wheel/brake-drum sets. Surprisingly, a 250 cu. in. 155 hp (116 kW) straight-6 was standard in 1967 which suggested that the Canadian 2+2 was simply the Parisienne with louvers, exterior and interior badges, as well as bucket seats and center console (which were options on the Parisienne) as standard equipment.

[edit] 1967-70
Model year Engine name Displacement in³ ( L) Carburetor series (bbl) Output bhp (kW) @ RPM Torque ft·lbf (Nm) @ RPM
1967 Astro-6 I-6 250 (4.6) Rochester 2-G (2) 155.00 (114.08) @ 4200 235.00 (318.66) @ 1600
1967 Astro-Flash 283 (4.6) Rochester 2-G (2) 195.00 (143.52) @ 4800 NA (NA) @ 2800
1967-68 Astro-Jet 396 (6.4) Rochester Q-Jet (4) 325.00 (239.20) @ 4800 400.00 (542.40) @ 2800
1967-69 Astro-Flash 427 (7.0) Rochester Q-Jet (4) 335.00 (220.80) @ 4800 470.00 (637.32) @ 3200
1968-70 Astro-Flash 350 (5.7) Rochester Q-Jet (4) 300.00 (220.80) @ 4800 380.00 (515.28) @ 2800
1969 Astro-Jet 396 (6.4) Rochester Q-Jet (4) 265.00 (195.04) @ 4800 400.00 (542.40) @ 2800
1970 Astro-Jet 400 (6.6) Rochester Q-Jet (4) 240.00 (176.64) @ 4800 NA (NA) @ 2800
1970 Astro-Jet 454 (7.4) Rochester Q-Jet (4) 345.00 (468.75) @ 4800 500.00 (678) @ 2800

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

They didn't quite get the engines right. For example, in 1970 they don't mention the 350 2bbl or the 400 2bbl, 400 4 bbl is incorrect. Is that from sort of a British publication?

68sd · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

wiklapedia

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

That is so cool! An old Pontiac convertible with a rat in it! Usually you find them in the engine compartment not under the seat though! Oh well, bragging rights!

Ken

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Astro Jet wrote:

They didn't quite get the engines right. For example, in 1970 they don't mention the 350 2bbl or the 400 2bbl, 400 4 bbl is incorrect. Is that from sort of a British publication?

Ray said the manual, he got the other day, cleared something on 400 in B-bodies.. Ray ???

Stephenzone · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

2+2 is home. elvis and 68sd went for the 400 km round trip today with me, not much happened except my magnetic mount signal lights for my dolly are made for a large import not a land yacht and wouldn't reach the trunk. ended up with them on the top bow by the windshield. was doing okay till i hit one grand canyon sized pot hole (i think it had its own postal code) and then we were dragging them down the 401 in toronto. ever try to get to the side in the express towing another car then get back into flow. needless to say that was the only mishap. picts tomorrow, computer is to busy copying music over to another drive. oh i pick up the 409 tomorrow.

2drpost · Uber Guru

good to hear you had a safe trip back with it steve. wink

CDNROUNDPORT · Addicted!

Glad you had a safe uneventfull trip,can ask for much when towing.

Ian

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Glad it's home safe Steve. 409? Did I miss the thread on this 409??