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Transmission Oil Cooler lines


If I am trespassing please forgive!  During my Mpumulanga trip, the one line started leaking and found that the radiator side connection had stripped.  What we did was to remove the Cooler Lines and blank off the gearbox connectors.  The car pulled better and did not kick down for the slightest hill.  I drove 600 Km's with no problem!

Question:  Can the box run without cooler lines or must the lines be replaced?  It can be done by simply repairing the radiator connection.  On the other side, there are less pipes that clutter the area.

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Absolutely repair them Johann.

For short trips you might be ok for a while, but any long trips in the SA summer you'll be in trouble. With the heat you get during a SA summer, you might want to consider adding a aux cooler as well.

Is it just the line fitting that's stripped, or the rad bung?


Your transmission will last longer if cooled.

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cdnpont wrote:
Is it just the line fitting that's stripped, or the rad bung?

It is the radiator bung that went..  Thanks for the chart.  will post it on our local Forum.

 



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Johann65 wrote:

 

cdnpont wrote:
Is it just the line fitting that's stripped, or the rad bung?

It is the radiator bung that went..  Thanks for the chart.  will post it on our local Forum.

Weeellll! since the verdict is to fix it, I used the opportunity to clean the lines and remove all the bends developed over the years. Rubber rings placed on one line to prevent chafing. The lines will be in by tomorrow morning.  Lines can still look good after 44 years!!
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-- Edited by Johann65 on Wednesday 6th of May 2009 12:53:21 PM

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Johann65 wrote:

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What are you doing putting transmission cooler line on your phone? it doesn't need to be cooled for transmission over the phone lines if anything it will work better if hotter.

 



 




 



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I too have noticed that the 6cyl powerglide lines have lots of ugly bends right from factory.  they are all over the place.
The V8 ones seem to be routed nicely, but all my original 6cyl cars have really ugly bends.
This applies to the 64-67 a bodys

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I wonder how those early 60's air cooled glides stood up to long hauls ? 


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Anyone else remember the air-cooled Turbo 350 variant in 72'ish Vegas?.

I had an air cooled auto in my 67 Rambler Coupe too and never had a problem..
199 Powerhouse aside, the Rambler was a cool car for a young lad and those reclining seats came in handy if it rained on drive-in dates as obviously it wasn't safe running the engine with exhaust leaks to keep the vacuum wipers going!.

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I think they did not too bad.  i've seen/had a few.  The have 4 huge holes in in the belhoushing area of the case.  The converter is unique with a metal cooling vane, and the inspection cover has an air scoop to funel in air around the converter.
They have provisions for cooler lines too, so they could be added.

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good work!

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Beaumont4008 wrote:

I wonder how those early 60's air cooled glides stood up to long hauls ? 


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-- Edited by Beaumont4008 on Wednesday 6th of May 2009 03:14:02 PM


They held up pretty good, as long as you didn't haul anything too heavy. Definitly no trailers.
My former 63Canso (now is  68 4speed SD's)has one and it works great. They make a distinctive whine that always takes me back to the '60's.

 



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Another trick is changing over the fluid to "Royal Purple" transmission fluid. It isn't cheap but in my daily driver Buick my trans temps are 50 degrees F with it (thank to my little scan gauge I can monitor it). I'm not sure if you can get it in South Africa but it would make sense to use it in your climate.

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beaumontguru wrote:

I think they did not too bad.  i've seen/had a few.  The have 4 huge holes in in the belhoushing area of the case.  The converter is unique with a metal cooling vane, and the inspection cover has an air scoop to funel in air around the converter.
They have provisions for cooler lines too, so they could be added.



i never knew that it was air cooled. i never kept it around long enough


 



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69Laurentian wrote:
Another trick is changing over the fluid to "Royal Purple" transmission fluid. It isn't cheap but in my daily driver Buick my trans temps are 50 degrees F with it (thank to my little scan gauge I can monitor it). I'm not sure if you can get it in South Africa but it would make sense to use it in your climate.

Todd

Todd, This morning I had one of the pipes repaired due to a small crack found!  Believe it or not the place is owned by one of my church's members!  He advised me to replace all the pipes and he can do it for (Wait for it!!!)  $25 CAD! Fittings included! 

 



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beaumontguru wrote:
I think they did not too bad.  i've seen/had a few.  The have 4 huge holes in in the belhoushing area of the case.  The converter is unique with a metal cooling vane, and the inspection cover has an air scoop to funel in air around the converter.
They have provisions for cooler lines too, so they could be added.

i never knew that it was air cooled. i never kept it around long enough

Nice shot of a Canso! and a good reference for me regarding the in line 6!!


 




 



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Good Eye. Its actually the front end off my Beaumont wagon. I didn't save anything except the rad and trim. It was an exercise in frustration, she was rusted solid and everything snapped off.

Johann65 wrote:

Nice shot of a Canso! and a good reference for me regarding the in line 6!!




 

 




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Stephenzone wrote:
Good Eye. Its actually the front end off my Beaumont wagon.
I didn't save anything except the rad and trim.
It was an exercise in frustration, she was rusted solid and everything snapped off.

Johann65 wrote:

Nice shot of a Canso! and a good reference for me regarding the in line 6!!

Showing the gearbox, (I have just completed the attachment of the lines to the transmission)
I saw the number 3863192 on the Yoke.
This reminds me of the story of the transplant the Malibu received in 1982. 

"In a town called Vryburg in the North-West Province in 1982 the Malibu's original
engine packed up.  The original 230cid engine and Powerglide was removed and
replaced with a 250cid and a three-speed box that had completed 18,000 miles.
When they tried to drive the car, a knocking noise was heard, the engine was
shut down and then towed back to Meyerton (Abt 600 km's). 
There it stood until July 2007.  Uncle Louis (No Relation), diligently paid the licence
fees each year until 2003 when he passed away.

When I got the engine running again, I heard the same noise, climbed under the
car and found that the incorrect gearbox mounting was fitted causing the universal
to knock against the transmission tunnel!  Therefore I got an engine with only
18,000 miles on the Clock!  It has now done a total of 23,000 miles!biggrin

Question;  Will the numbers on the yoke and engine give an indication of the year
of manufacture?
The casting numbers on the block are; CON2 D159   3921968 GM 5T

Are there some of the GURU's that can enlighten me?  GMSA's current staff, were
unable to assist.  It was the time that GMSA was just starting to computerise
and my cousin Daphne was the first datacard typist in South Africa!
(Punchcard Operator)

 



-- Edited by Johann65 on Thursday 7th of May 2009 12:52:05 PM

-- Edited by Johann65 on Thursday 7th of May 2009 12:53:21 PM

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Stephenzone wrote:
Good Eye. Its actually the front end off my Beaumont wagon. I didn't save anything except the rad and trim. It was an exercise in frustration, she was rusted solid and everything snapped off.
Johann65 wrote:
Nice shot of a Canso! and a good reference for me regarding the in line 6!!

Talk of rust! This is how the Malibu looked! Little Rust! Just Dirt!
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  3. 2000 Peugeot 406 2.0L
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that front end looks like something i can handle and i can handle dirt, i own a jeep. just kidding anyways. i really wanted to save all the stuff off the front but we couldn't even get the drums off and they didn't even spin. it got to the point we tighten with the impact to get them to snap because after sitting since 73 in a farmers rock pile, it wasn't pretty. about the only thing that spun was we noticed smoke coming from under the hood after about a mile when we were towing it out from the farm. it was still in gear and puked trany fluid up the dip stick.

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I sat on the wheels doing the clean-up.  That is the pleasure of 60's cars. 
Bolt off, clean-up and bolt back!.  I'm going to complete the line fitment
and will post a photo today!  Cheers!

-- Edited by Johann65 on Friday 8th of May 2009 02:50:29 AM

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  1. 1965 Malibu 4dr Sedan L6 (Original)
  2. 1975 Chevrolet Kommando 305 (Monaro Clone)
  3. 2000 Peugeot 406 2.0L
  4. 1996 VW Golf Chico


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Note the shiny refurbished cooler lines and the fuel line.  Removed the return system as it worked too well!
On steep inclines it sent all the fuel back to the tank!ashamed
Still cannot find 250CID Rochester Air Cleaner!
Current is a Nissan Niki aircleaner!
I think I can make a living in Cuba!aww

Please pardon the wet engine.
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Vaal Old Wheels are hosting the MG Club tomorrow (After Church) and I have been
asked to bring the Malibu along.
Social event including a barbeque (Braai) for only Cad $5 per person. 

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  2. 1975 Chevrolet Kommando 305 (Monaro Clone)
  3. 2000 Peugeot 406 2.0L
  4. 1996 VW Golf Chico


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johaan,
not sure about the numbers but the D 15 9 may be....
D...4th month
15th day
9...1969

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Dave;
Thank you very much for the info.  It correlates with the history I have and now I can check up the casting number!


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  4. 1996 VW Golf Chico
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