Well finally got my new car today,bought this car in Oct 2007 gave it to the mechanic in June 2008.This is a guy who works for XXXXX OK starts by pullin the motor trans and rear end Then i give him my other 65 to use the motor (350) trans and posi rear end,all is well accept i have way more trouble selling the old 65 than i thought but finnally it sells with the drive train from my new car in it.So now this guy needs money for shop supplies and i decide to build a new motor and put on all high end parts says the bill for the job excluding parts is $3500 ok fine puts the motor in and now it starts,has the car at his house all work stops he wants more money ok heres $500 not much seems to be happenin wont return my calls says hell drop by after i call him at his work never shows stall stall now he needs more money $500 now 9 months later he says hes done all these things car is ready will deliver tommorow morning,next day no one home call the next day go to his house car is not even close,totally lied straight to my face.hes pissed now cause i showed up and caught him and hes all mad.I guess im the prick here?I tell him get it running im taking it-very close to calling the RCMP and a tow truck he works on it while i stand there all day and i drive it away runs like **** a bunch of stuff not done still that he said was done days ago.You trust people and this is what you get,the guys made a ton of money took 6 months longer than said and didnt do the job and is a prick to boot.wants his money for the final bill tomorrow bet its $6000 would you give it to him?? ill have to pay him something but fuk i dunno Im not gonna post his name but hope you never meet him.Called the RC;s they cant do nothin till he makes his move.
***Sorry but it's against board rules to mention names**** Todd
-- Edited by 69Laurentian on Monday 11th of May 2009 01:24:54 PM
-- Edited by cooldude on Wednesday 13th of May 2009 06:42:10 PM
I feel for you. That sucks. When you pay some one that kind of money its best to get involved with what he is doing by droping in to see how things are going on a reguler bases. A good mechanic will welcome you and explain were he is at. He is working for you not the other way around. I would not pay for whats not done.
contact the RC's anyways.. just to ask what recourse you may have.. sounds like he's got a habit and its' in control. Better verify that the stuff you bought is in the car too.. seen a "transfer" of parts before thinking your the idiot and you wont know any better.
or.. call some of the "boys" at 81 to give you a house call..
If you got your car back and all the stuff to go with it I wouldnt pay,tell him you get what you deserve_nothing,Because now you have to pay somebody else to finish what he was suppose to do.thats just my two cents and i wont charge you
contact the RC's anyways.. just to ask what recourse you may have.. sounds like he's got a habit and its' in control. Better verify that the stuff you bought is in the car too.. seen a "transfer" of parts before thinking your the idiot and you wont know any better.
or.. call some of the "boys" at 81 to give you a house call..
contact the RC's anyways.. just to ask what recourse you may have.. sounds like he's got a habit and its' in control. Better verify that the stuff you bought is in the car too.. seen a "transfer" of parts before thinking your the idiot and you wont know any better.
or.. call some of the "boys" at 81 to give you a house call..
10-4 CALL them, and report it, before He does!
good point.. at least then you look like your not the one trying to rip him off.
Call the cops and don't pay him a cent. If he wants anything tell him to take you to court. Let him then prove what the jobs worth, if possible get an estimate from another shop to finish the job. At least you have possession of the car which is a good start.
Really great you've got the car back already before fighting over the bill amount!.
As others have said above;
- Be the 1'st one who initates contact w/ the cops!.
- Get estimates immediately of work necessary to bring it to the level of what was agreed on even if it includes redoing substandard work he's done.. Check carefully that you're in agreement and acceptable of all he's done first...motor and all!. If you move on past these points, it'll be hard to backtrack also may weaken your case?.
- Get your paperwork organized in a progressive fashion from the beginning to getting the car back including all dates of importance and noting what was agreed upon at each visit.. Make sure to include details of all payments...checks or otherwise..
- Initiate legal action as necessary...Lawyers, Sm. Claims Crt. etc..
Think hard on the last part as life is short, legal costs high and from the sounds of things, this guys operation may be shaky at best so you may get nothing whatever way you go?. It certainly sucks but sometimes it's best to first think long and hard about moving on and staying healthy without the continued stress and added costs of trying to recover funds you may never see?.
Good luck!
-- Edited by Ghost Post on Monday 11th of May 2009 12:42:18 PM
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do you have some sort of B.A.R. ? they got my $ back on a rebuild i had a few years ago. Car was burning qt of oil every 100 miles. shop kept saying different things like it your carb oh now it leaks it the intake you provided (provided whole engine) Turns out they used a pontiac intake gasket not a buick and did not match the intake to the heads. good luck . want me to send some frisco your way
I havent paid this guy yet and am waiting to see another mechanic to find out whats up.Then ill have a bill for him,till i know he gets jack.As for the cops i dont think hes really commited any real crime although lying cheating stealing stalling and wasting my time for 6 months should be a criminal offence.Whats happened to integrity and quality workmanship and giving your word,sad very sad.
Is this guy a legitimate mechanic operating out of a shop or is he just doing this in his backyard? He could put a mechanic's lien on your car so watch out.
Did you have a written contract with him that spelt out total costs, what was to be done by when, who was to supply what parts by when, who was to pay for what, etc.? If not, it becomes a "he said, she said" contest in front of a judge which will be a crapshoot and you still might end up paying for everything.
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Is this guy a legitimate mechanic operating out of a shop or is he just doing this in his backyard? He could put a mechanic's lien on your car so watch out.
Did you have a written contract with him that spelt out total costs, what was to be done by when, who was to supply what parts by when, who was to pay for what, etc.? If not, it becomes a "he said, she said" contest in front of a judge which will be a crapshoot and you still might end up paying for everything.
Is this guy a legitimate mechanic operating out of a shop or is he just doing this in his backyard? He could put a mechanic's lien on your car so watch out.
Did you have a written contract with him that spelt out total costs, what was to be done by when, who was to supply what parts by when, who was to pay for what, etc.? If not, it becomes a "he said, she said" contest in front of a judge which will be a crapshoot and you still might end up paying for everything.
You sound like a Lawyer
Who me? I just believe in stepping back and considering all possible influencing factors in any possible outcome and suggesting practical considerations in dealing with automotive disputes and disagreements.
-- Edited by Astro Jet on Monday 11th of May 2009 05:17:20 PM
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Get some good pictures of the work, date them and if you end up in court the judge will see the photos and it may help in detirmining the case. There are a lot of "I can do that for you" people out there that only want to rip you off (in the old days they usually had sore lips or black eyes). I feel for you. ARCADIAN
I just came from a mechanics and we couldnt figure out WTF and it looks like this clown has put the timing gears on wrong new MSD distributer had no gasket and was held by a rusty bolt and two rusty washers,old crappy temp senser vacuum lines pinched and not even hooked to trans, valve lash not even close im scared to see whats next oh and he said the heater core was replaced but there it is dripping antifreeze on the mat=loooooooser
My advise to you is to wait for him to come to you with legal action. The police will have nothing to do with it and this guy is probably more scared to go to court than you. If you don't have a written, signed, witnessed contract he doesn't have a leg to stand on. I have been in construction for 17 yrs and see this all the time. If you have a contract with him all you have to do is put the money owed in a trust account with a lawyer and let him fight for it. It will cost him more than what the money is worth. I have seen contractors screwed by developers with this method. Wait for a letter in the mail but put the money aside just in case he wins some of it. He will settle because they all do. Make sure you get a notory to draft a document for him to sign to state that he doesn't have any interest in the car anymore if any money changes hands. It might suck but your going to have to be the prick on this one.
P.S Buy a crate motor next time. Plug and play with a warranty.
Ya this guys got all hes gettin theres no contract and he never delivered what he promised anyways hes so full of **** its unbelievable he quoted $3500 in 3 months its been 9 hes been paid $2500 and thats all hes gettin sue me good luck to bad he stole one of my rally caps anyone got one ?Just came from another mechanics the timing gear was not right 2 plug wires were dead coil wire was flakey he has broken my new water pump,theres no power steering pump because he trashed the mounting hole expensive Eidelbrock high flow ceramic coated,put too long of hood bolts and dented the hood I am just pissed
-- Edited by cooldude on Tuesday 12th of May 2009 11:43:30 PM
Just took the car to another mechanic they were blown away at how bad the job was,theyre going to look it over but they think itll be over $1000 at least
cooldude wrote:got the bill on the brand new Edelbrock water pump $360 that the clown trashed by trying to drive an oversize bolt into the power steering hold down -was he pissed or just a moron
Well finally got my new car today,bought this car in Oct 2007 gave it to the mechanic in June 2008.This is a guy who works for XXXXX OK starts by pullin the motor trans and rear end Then i give him my other 65 to use the motor (350) trans and posi rear end,all is well accept i have way more trouble selling the old 65 than i thought but finnally it sells with the drive train from my new car in it.So now this guy needs money for shop supplies and i decide to build a new motor and put on all high end parts says the bill for the job excluding parts is $3500 ok fine puts the motor in and now it starts,has the car at his house all work stops he wants more money ok heres $500 not much seems to be happenin wont return my calls says hell drop by after i call him at his work never shows stall stall now he needs more money $500 now 9 months later he says hes done all these things car is ready will deliver tommorow morning,next day no one home call the next day go to his house car is not even close,totally lied straight to my face.hes pissed now cause i showed up and caught him and hes all mad.I guess im the prick here?I tell him get it running im taking it-very close to calling the RCMP and a tow truck he works on it while i stand there all day and i drive it away runs like **** a bunch of stuff not done still that he said was done days ago.You trust people and this is what you get,the guys made a ton of money took 6 months longer than said and didnt do the job and is a prick to boot.wants his money for the final bill tomorrow bet its $6000 would you give it to him?? ill have to pay him something but fuk i dunno Im not gonna post his name but hope you never meet him.Called the RC;s they cant do nothin till he makes his move.
***Sorry but it's against board rules to mention names**** Todd
-- Edited by 69Laurentian on Monday 11th of May 2009 01:24:54 PM
-- Edited by cooldude on Wednesday 13th of May 2009 06:42:10 PM
ill have to pay him something but fuk i dunno Im not gonna post his name but hope you never meet him.Called the RC;s they cant do nothin till he makes his move.
I just believe in stepping back and considering all possible influencing factors in any possible outcome and suggesting practical considerations in dealing with automotive disputes and disagreements. 
