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A Firebird


Hey guys

I have a question about a 1970 or 1970 1/2 Firebird 350, Convertible.

Where can I find out as much info as possible on this car and is it a factory build.

I once heard a story about only 4 being built like it, read it to in the Firebird book.

PS. it is restoreable

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I've never heard of one, but could be a factory prototype. Look on f-bodies.com.

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There have been a few 2nd gen F-body converts but all were done by aftermarket suppliers like ASC

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eeluddy wrote:

There have been a few 2nd gen F-body converts but all were done by aftermarket suppliers like ASC



....and they were all pretty darn fugly too.....

 



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....and they were all pretty darn fugly too.....

I dunno about that, I put it in sight and it attracts crowds (as weathered as it is)

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Pics, we need pics. Welcome to the site.


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Thanks and soon just got to get the bees relocated!

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I have been searching the web for days and finally came up with this 73 Camaro.

Let me apologise for suggesting the car is fugly.

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A picture is worth a thousand words....

-- Edited by 73SC on Friday 10th of July 2009 11:27:57 PM

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73SC wrote:

I have been searching the web for days and finally came up with this 73 Camaro.

Let me apologise for suggesting the car is fugly.

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It is just, S*it.  Yikes they look better as a t-top.

 



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Well It finally gave me a not so wet day.



-- Edited by Oxford on Thursday 30th of July 2009 08:41:39 PM

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Look to be in pretty good shape. Is there any rust issues

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looks good !

 

for sale ?



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sweet fuggin car there man!!!

years ago, id'a bout given my left nut for that thing. now, uuummmm idunno bout that, but still a sweet fuggin car!!! lol


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Would be interesting to see a pic of the trim plate as well?

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67Poncho wrote:

Would be interesting to see a pic of the trim plate as well?




 Can`t seem to find one, not even any holes for on in the typical spots, there is a door sticker but, it has been painted over. Not sure if it is just paper or plastic coated so not sure what to use right yet to strip the paint off it without damaging it.



-- Edited by Oxford on Friday 31st of July 2009 06:49:41 AM

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57poncho wrote:

Look to be in pretty good shape. Is there any rust issues



Not to bad, doglegs and inside bottom of doors, no holes just bubbles. Need to get a better look. All the trim is in the car

 



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67BBSD wrote:

looks good !

 

for sale ?



Thanks, not sure yet!

 



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sweet fuggin car there man!!!

years ago, id'a bout given my left nut for that thing. now, uuummmm idunno bout that, but still a sweet fuggin car!!! lol



Yea! I have been watching it for about 13 years it dissappeared for a while and one day over a chat with an old timer, he said he seen it back in the woods while he was hunting.

 



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In the late 70's I saw a flock of new F-body ragtops sitting in the holding lot outside of GM Oshawa's Kerr Industries...always regretted not taking any pics..

I've searched for info on these in the years since and the best I could surmise without any inquiries was that they were probably the NCE (National Coch Engineering) conversions as they were one of the manufacturers who built these in any quantity..

Again this was late 70's and the cars were 78/79 F'Bird/Camaros not a 70-73 as in the example shown in this thread?.
Have you looked at the Vin itself to see if it's truly an earlier car or perhaps modified from a later one?.
Also look for any builder tags and what if any added structural supports on the underside to substitute for the missing roof strength look like as that may give a clue to if it's home-made or a professional conversion and whos it is?.

Here's a couple links to the NCE cars...

http://www.80transampacecar.com/Site/Magazine%20Articles/07_02_08/Convertible%20TA_Z28_MT_August_79.pdf

http://www.80transampacecar.com/Site/Magazine%20Articles/02_18_09/NCE%201980-81%20Brochure.pdf

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Thanks Pete for taking the time to share.

Vin matches year and engine and trans. Cannot find a body tag! History of the car is so far a story, car was built in USA, turned into a convert in California and shipped to Alberta(NEW). In 1984 it was sold to another Albertian and later sold to the current owner. Did manage to find some of the paper trail. Going to see if any of the previous owners still exist.

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Ox...

Considering it's a 70-73 car and the time these conversions were going on was the later 70's, it must've been converted as a used car so search and compare with any conversions you can find online..
Looking at the side views it appears very much like the same roof was used although the rear window size is different?.
Compare things like how they cut the roof at the top of the A-Pillars and bottom of the C-Pillars, the front top attaching hardware, interior roof mechanisms and activation switches if power also the previously mentioned underside supports etc..

Good luck!.
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Hello Oxford and welcome!
Great looking car! It would be very interesting to find out the history on that car!
Definately one of a kind...or of very few!
Always nice to have another Firebird here!!

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As an owner of a 2nd and 3rd gen f bodies, let me say nice work, and if you ever want to part with it. it sure would look good with my other 2 !!

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