So I am wondering who can top my story of having spent the WHOLE F***ING DAY at the DMV trying to get your car titled and licensed ...
I will not bore your with the full-length version, suffice it to say the first hostile bitchy clerk rejected everything right away and her boss backed her up, and the second one (different location, hey I have learned a little bit over the years) was not much better to start but she succumbed to my max-effort sympathizing and hurts-me-to-say-it-but-sweet-talking fabrications ...
On the plus side, I do have title and license plate in hand ...
But why do we have to go through all this? Or is it just USA perversion, if I moved to Canada there would be no problem with "Here's the original (as anyone can clearly see from how it is printed) title with owner's name signed off, gimme my new title" ... seems to me that is how it used to be years ago in Wisconsin (not that far from Canada, eh?) ...
Dave
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1956 Pontiac Pathfinder 2dr sedan, 496 - dyno'd 545 hp, stick shift, 4.11 posi - Hot Rod
no different up here dave, you get the same bitchy, 'you can't do that', 'i'm too busy doin nothin' civil servants here too. just got to catch the right one on the right day.
I titled 7 at once, piece of cake and the insurance girl was great. Kind of helped that she owned a willies and went through the same thing 2 years earlier. She was a car girl. Her husband deserves a metal.
I get to go tomorrow to get the plates renewed for my Park Ave and the Laurentian. Good bye $148...
You're lucky you don't live in the socialist paradise of Toronto where Comrade Mayor Miller has imposed an additional $60 annual licence fee per vehicle. Here you would be kissing away $268.
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Hillar
1970 LS4 (eventually an LS5) Laurentian 2dr hdtp -and a bunch of other muscle cars...
Thanks. With the stickers and an unexpected trip to the vet today ($195) it's been an expensive week! I have come to the conclusion that we will never get ahead in my household!
Thanks. With the stickers and an unexpected trip to the vet today ($195) it's been an expensive week! I have come to the conclusion that we will never get ahead in my household!
Thanks. With the stickers and an unexpected trip to the vet today ($195) it's been an expensive week! I have come to the conclusion that we will never get ahead in my household!
When I was a young pup, I had a budget that allowed for $500. per month savings (in other words: not allocated). Then "things" would happen - wind blows down the fence - kids discover that the dishwasher door is a good step up to the counter to reach hidden cookies - rock hits windshield - dryer burns up - drywall screw attacks tire - the missus is convinced that braces are the solution: maybe perhaps possibly jaw problems will be avoided when she is 85 years old - etc
Now the problem is KIPPERS (Kids In Parents' Pockets Eroding Retirement Savings )
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1967 Parisienne 2+2 1967 Grande Parisienne
1967 Laurentian 1967 Strato Chief
Remember, "The Government" only has money confiscated from us.
Manitoba is pretty good. Without going into great detail, I bought a car with only a bill of sale received. $15 and maybe a total of 20 minutes of my time saw me walking out with a clean document (equivalent of a title, we call it a T.O.D) in my hand.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)
Manitoba is pretty good. Without going into great detail, I bought a car with only a bill of sale received. $15 and maybe a total of 20 minutes of my time saw me walking out with a clean document (equivalent of a title, we call it a T.O.D) in my hand.
Aiiee! I spent from 9 a.m. until 5 p.m. (with 15 minutes off for lunch) including a trip to the notary public, 2 trips to DMV (1 hour round trip travel time per trip), 3 hours waiting, one whole hour at the final (successful) wrangling over the counter, the balance of the time fretting and stewing and calling California to try to find the old owner (I bought the car 2 years ago and he is long gone) ... and it cost me $295 US.
Maybe I ought to move to Manitoba.
Dave
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1956 Pontiac Pathfinder 2dr sedan, 496 - dyno'd 545 hp, stick shift, 4.11 posi - Hot Rod
I found things were much easier when I lived out west. Here in NB it's like what was mentioned above. You've got to catch the right one on the right day!
Basically here if you walk in and the car has not been registered since we started TOD's about 14 years ago, you hand in a bill of sale. They call in the VIN which is searched, I believe nationwide, to confirm it's not stolen or whatever. If it comes back clean, they are allowed to generate a TOD right at the insurance agent's office (we have government insurance in Manitoba, no competition). Once a TOD is generated for that VIN, you are set. Every time the car is sold after that you sign it over to the new owner.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)
What does "T O D" stand for Carl? Basically it sounds like it functions just like our "ownerships" here in Ontario, although before registering a transfer, you are forced to buy a "used vehicle information package" from the Ministry of Transportation which will supposedly show all the previous owners and any encumbrances on the vehicle. It will also show whether the car has ever been written off by an insurance company and what the mileage is. That last part is a joke, you are supposed to fill in your vehicle's mileage each time you get a new annual registration sticker but I never do and no one has ever refused to issue me a sticker because of that.
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Hillar
1970 LS4 (eventually an LS5) Laurentian 2dr hdtp -and a bunch of other muscle cars...
you can do a sworn statement in Ontario to aquire an ownership for a vehicle no longer on the records-if its on the records just go to the registered owner and get him to do a loss
What does "T O D" stand for Carl? Basically it sounds like it functions just like our "ownerships" here in Ontario, although before registering a transfer, you are forced to buy a "used vehicle information package" from the Ministry of Transportation which will supposedly show all the previous owners and any encumbrances on the vehicle. It will also show whether the car has ever been written off by an insurance company and what the mileage is. That last part is a joke, you are supposed to fill in your vehicle's mileage each time you get a new annual registration sticker but I never do and no one has ever refused to issue me a sticker because of that.
Basically ownership, as you say. We don't have to buy any kind of package like you do though. That sounds like a cash grab...
Our's started showing up the writeoffs around 1995 I believe.
I've told the story on here about our Grand National. Written off by the original owner in 1991 with only 18,975 km on it. We purchased it, fixed it and kept it until 2000 when we traded it on a 94 Impala SS. I wanted our gov't insurance company to tag it as a salvage vehicle (it showed up as being "clean, never written off, whatever" because the accident happened before they started TOD's. I called and tried to convince them that since it was a collector car, the chances of someone being dishonest about it for profit were high. We traded it with full disclosure about it being written off. Guess what the purchaser tried to pull off a few months later..................
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)
1956 Pontiac Pathfinder 2dr sedan, 496 - dyno'd 545 hp, stick shift, 4.11 posi - Hot Rod
just got to catch the right one on the right day. 
