65 409 Custom Sport 4 speed

67Poncho · Uber Guru

RE: 65 409 Custom Sport 4 speed

67Poncho · Uber Guru

427carl wrote:

Canadian car no decals on engine?

There was a decal on the front of the breather but just the glue imprint is left. But this was the way he got it... (I am pretty sure that is what he said?)

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Regarding a 1966 406 Biscayne.....

409

A 409-cubic-inch (6.7 L) version was Chevrolet's top regular production engine from 1961 to 1965, with a choice of single- or dual-four-barrel carburetors. Bore and stroke were both up from the 348 at 4.312 in (109.5 mm) by 3.50 in (89 mm). On December 17, 1960, the 409 engine was announced along with the Impala SS (Super Sport) model. The initial version of the engine produced 360 hp (270 kW), with a single-four-barrel Carter AFB carburetor. The same engine was upped to 380 hp (280 kW) in 1962. A 409 horsepower (305 kW) version of this engine was also available, developing 1 hp per cubic inch with a dual-four-barrel aluminum intake manifold and two Carter AFB carburetors. In the 1963 model year, output reached 425 hp (317 kW) at 6200 rpm with the 2X4 setup, 11.25:1 compression and a solid lifter camshaft. This engine was immortalized in the Beach Boys song titled "409". The engine was available through mid 1965 when it was replaced by the 396-cubic-inch 425 hp (317 kW) Mark IV big-block engine. In addition, a 340 hp (250 kW) version of the 409 engine was available from 19631965, with a single-four-barrel cast-iron intake mounting a Rochester 4GC carburetor, and a hydraulic-lifter camshaft.

Source: Wiki

67Poncho · Uber Guru

73SC wrote:

Regarding a 1966 409 Biscayne.....
409

I know Ray.... But, from what we have seen here lately, you never know!!! Maybe the dealer swapped for a 409???

I will try to sit him down and get as much info as I can from him and maybe his chum is still above ground and we can talk to him... Maybe he has pics, paper work etc.......

And I found this interesting on the Beach Boys song 409!!!

"409"

The engine noises heard at the beginning of the song were of Usher's Chevrolet 348, the W-series predecessor to the 409.

-- Edited by 67Poncho on Tuesday 6th of October 2009 12:53:15 PM

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

You are right, best to get it from the horse's mouth. We have all heard of 396 '65 Pontiacs too but never actually seen one installed in the factory.

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Don't worry about it Vince! Now we don't have to lay awake all night with shotguns anymore trying to guard it!

rabbit64cs · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

to ad to the..' the dealership did weird things' I just missed on a 61 Parisienne bubble top about 10 years ago out of Medice Hat. The car was a fairly low mile car with a 409 ,,,yep but we all know that it didn't come that way. Seems the 348 had a mishap, and the 409 was installed at the dealership as a service replacement because the 348 was no longer availeable, As I type this , I just realized I know where the car ended, up , unfortunatly , when I say I missed,,the 409 and car where parted when I entered the scene. the 409 ??? who knows? the car ,10 miles from my house.

So....long winded,,and a little dense,,I forgot all about the car and combo...IF it where a true 348 bubble top ,,HOW RARE WOULD THAT BE????????????

HOW would one verify that it was a 348 car??

later..rog

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

good story! biggrin

My friend Will ordered new 66 Strato Chief 2 door with 396 -325 4 speed from the Pontiac dealer!! never took it there for service? lol He was friends with Service manger at Chevrolet dealer evileye

The car was wicked fast on the Trans Canada every weekend.. I find out 40 years later,

car got a 427-425 "under warranty"

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

427carl wrote:

good story! My friend Will ordered new 66 Strato Chief 2 door with 396 -325 4 speed from the Pontiac dealer!! never took it there for service? lol He was friends with Service manger at Chevrolet dealer The car was wicked fast on the Trans Canada every weekend.. I find out 40 years later, car got a 427-425 "under warranty"

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

rabbit64cs wrote:

to ad to the..' the dealership did weird things' I just missed on a 61 Parisienne bubble top about 10 years ago out of Medice Hat. The car was a fairly low mile car with a 409 ,,,yep but we all know that it didn't come that way. Seems the 348 had a mishap, and the 409 was installed at the dealership as a service replacement because the 348 was no longer availeable, As I type this , I just realized I know where the car ended, up , unfortunatly , when I say I missed,,the 409 and car where parted when I entered the scene. the 409 ??? who knows? the car ,10 miles from my house.

So....long winded,,and a little dense,,I forgot all about the car and combo...IF it where a true 348 bubble top ,,HOW RARE WOULD THAT BE????????????

HOW would one verify that it was a 348 car??

later..rog

I "think" GM Vintage can tell you engine on a 61, or am I wrong?

64 Hard Top · Addicted!

I agree ,. it's worth the 20K. But at that price ,.. it would have to be the right buyer. One with very deep pockets. We all know that a resto ,.. even as good as what we see in the pictures .,,will still run $20,000+. So then you're in it at $45,000+. Has anyone been watching Barrett Jackson auctions lately? You can almost take your pick,.. turn key,.. frame off restored classic vehicles for $30-$40K. And you drive it away!

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

Johnnee D wrote:

my current "old wheels" had its last repaint in the 70's...paint really thin in a lot of places, but has a lot of charm...
my 0.02 chf worth
cheers
JD

What is your current "old wheels"? Have you posted it on here?

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

Johnnee D wrote:

Astro Jet wrote:

Johnnee D wrote:

my current "old wheels" had its last repaint in the 70's...paint really thin in a lot of places, but has a lot of charm...
my 0.02 chf worth
cheers
JD

What is your current "old wheels"? Have you posted it on here?

not a Pontiac, not even a GM... , so I didn't post here...

We love all old cars! What is it, an old M-B, BMW? How about something even quirkier, like a NSU or a DKW? Inquiring minds want to know!

-- Edited by Astro Jet on Wednesday 7th of October 2009 03:01:34 PM

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

We hi-jack threads with alarming frequency here! Your Chryslers sound neat, especially the 300H, although I can relate to you having taken it apart and now having it in a million pieces around the garage. I have one of those "retirement" projects as well, as that is only time when I might even have enough time to think about completing it! biggrin

I can see now why you would like to get something that you can drive now. What is price of fuel in Switzerland these days? I think a 6 banger with 3 on the tree will be your most logical choice. Just curious, what do you have for a daily driver?

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

You know $1.60 is not all that bad, considering that we were paying $1.30 in Canada not that long ago. What is the price of diesel?

oldsledguy · Veteran Member

HI,Guys.I guess old 67poncho let the cat out of the bag posting pics of my 09.I told him that was ok.Never realized there was a site for Canadian pontiacs.As far as the car goes I think I am the third owner.It had a paint job (somewhat less than perfect)years ago.Lt fender was replaced with a used one at that time.Everything else I believe is original.

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

Welcome! When was the last time you had the mighty 09 on the road?

eeluddy · Uber Guru

Welcome. I love your car. Some more pic's would be great, when you get a chance. As you can see your car is already a celebrity on here.

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

I've said it before, but when I was 8 or so my uncle (my Caddy uncle) bought my older cousin a 65 Custom Sport, Red with white guts 283. I loved that car then and love them now. I still have the owners manual somehow from that car, and I would just gaze at the engine page where all the specs are and wonder what it would have been like to have the 409 with "special camshaft" in that car. biggrin

Glad you stopped by oldsledguy!!

oldsledguy · Veteran Member

RE: 6 littleCustom Sport 4 speed this y

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

RE: 65 409 Custom Sport 4 speed

oldsledguy · Veteran Member

Sure.I will put It in my shop and you can work on it anytime for me.Vinny was right you are a great bunch of guys biggrin

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

good sense of humour

I will be right over!!!

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

oldsledguy, you are my hero

I love that you use that car and keep it original.

Welcome here, and please, please keep us updated about your adventures with that car. It's a very important piece of Canadian Poncho history.

oldsledguy · Veteran Member

The real adventures with the 09 probably ended 20 years ago.I was once young and stupid now im just old and stupid. smile