Was playing around with my 64 yesterday, Was installing the universal hazard flasher unit I bought on here a few years ago.
Also put in a new turn signal switch, did not want to cut new switch or dash harness so I made up and harness to go between
the turn signal connector and the dash harness. Plug everything in, all works good, well except if you step on brake pedal, that's where it
gets real weird. The engine starts to crank over if you step on brake pedal with the hazards on, pull the power wire for the flasher and it works normal again.
move the power wire to another terminal on fuse box, same thing. No I was not drinking anything yet, LOL. Started right after this happened.
Not quite sure what happened here, but has me scratching my head a bit. Somehow the power out of flasher is feeding back into the brake switch
which I can see, but not sure why it's getting to the purple start wire. Might have to put a diode on the brake switch wire.
I'm just thinking, what happens if you remove the solenoid wire from the ignition switch connector? That would determine if it's getting into the purple wire by getting into the igntion switch, or if somehow along the way it's accessing the purple wire elsewhere.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
Yes it's a 4spd car. Gonna pull the neutral safety jumper later today and see what happens. Will
find out wether it getting power thru brake light switch to something. Power source for hazard is thru live fuse box
terminal, live all the time.
What if you would just pull the connector off the back of the ignition switch and try it? If the power is live off the fuse box then in theory it still should act up with the ignition unplugged? If it doesn't it's somehow going through the ignition switch?
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
Right, brake light switch is ignition switch fed, only live with key on. so if for some reason manufacturers hooked crank and
Looks like terminal A together when switch is in off position, could be a possibility. did not try when in run pos.
64 diagram does not show feed wire going back to ignition, 65 diagram shows it going to terminal A. Have another old ignition
switch so can check.
latest test.
Removed the neutral safety jumper wire and it does not do this anymore, so power is feeding back thru brake lamp switch
into ignition switch and must be somehow connected to start terminal when ignition is in of pos. weird. spare ignition does not show any connection between the 2.
Out of car though. So somehow getting power to purple start wire. Interesting. If ignition is in on position it works ok. does not crank when stepping on brake pedal.
also when stepping on brake pedal the dash ignition on lamps flash, LOL. Opened up a can of worms here. Need to put a diode in the brake light switch wire.
What if you pull the power wire off at the brake switch, then power the brake switch from a different source? I'm betting that will eliminate the issue. Maybe power the brake switch live from a fusebox terminal instead of it being powered from the ignition with the key on.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
Had a diode from a MSD box so installed that in the brake switch feed wire going into the turn signal switch, before the splice for hazards
and we are all good, no more cranking with brake pedal and no more dash light blinking with hazards on when brake pedal applied. LOL.
So hazards are feeding power back to ignition switch and because I am running a relay that is powered by start wire, I am assuming there was some slight
power feeding into relay circuit, which would not take much to turn it on. Kinda threw me for a loop for a bit. all good now though, time fro some cruisin.
hello all, been busy with work so haven't had much time for the car. Got the disc brakes done and bled today so took her for a rip up the street, didn't see any police so all is good. its a bit loud as i cut the old mufflers off. looks good with the 235s on. got her turned around and now starting the trunk floor pans. hope to get at it next weekend or if he weather is good, the evenings. Tried to take the rear bumper off today as well but the bolts are seized pretty tight. Put loosen oil on and will tackle with heat this week if i get time.
Yes it's a 4spd car. Gonna pull the neutral safety jumper later today and see what happens. Will find out wether it getting power thru brake light switch to something. Power source for hazard is thru live fuse box terminal, live all the time.
The early GM factory 4 way flashers had a peculiarity, if you turned them on, turned on the left signal light, tou could power up the radio without a key. The power would flash on and off until you put your foot on the brake pedal, which stopped the 4 ways from flashing.
Not sure what wiring made this happen.
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63 Parisienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. 1963- Pontiac top selling car in Canada
Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic
First full day at home in three weeks (it's a Bank Holiday here today and far too windy for flying).
Spent most of the day trying to cut off the 3 holed shaped washer like doodads that hold the downpipes up to the headers, since the rusty nuts didn't respond to heat and mousemilk the other month. Our cheap Dremel knock off kept running out of battree chargeness, but I managed to beat one side into submission.
In between waiting for voltage replenishment therein, I hooked up the new Yuasa 12 volt in the Bay Window Vee Dub Camper. Continuing the Vice Grip theme, I was pleased to be able to turn the motor over by hand and even more pleased to get "lightage" on the dash. A few "dunks" from the starter and, on about the sixth try, she turned over long enough to get some oil pressure. Although I didn't get her to fire that was great progress, since it hasn't run in at least five years. Well I'll be dipped! I'll fill the tank with a mixture of avgas and some Redex injector cleaner next chance I get and see if I get some sparkage.
Decided to perform a little TLC on my beloved, work built 25 year old box trailer. This trailer has hauled everything (3000 lbs. more than once), everywhere and owes me nothing. The thing has been a icon of the family for all these years.
New bearings and seals for the 71 Gremlin front bolt on hubs (ford bolt pattern) on the homemade axle, spruce up the paint, add new gate chains and finally properly fab up and add the fenders to the axle that it's needed forever. All fun!
One mid life mistake I made to it was to epoxy paint it. Problem is, although it remained shiny black, water would tend to migrate under the durable paint, stay wet and rust the structure. Tremclad every few years is best imop.
Decided to perform a little TLC on my beloved, work built 25 year old box trailer. This trailer has hauled everything (3000 lbs. more than once), everywhere and owes me nothing. The thing has been a icon of the family for all these years.
Sometimes it's the simple and inconspicuous things that give you the most joy in life ( I sound like one of those Dollar Store sayings that you can stick on your wall), but it's true.
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Prince Edward Island
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
Met a friendly guy who lent me a much needed tool,
Some of you may know him.
I was so excited to get the tool, I forgot about the gas.
75 miles an hour there in back in that 350 Powerglide.
That car loves the highway !
Same guy who is constantly helping out on this forum? I think I do know him. And some day I'll get to shake his hand (as well as a few others in your area) when life returns to normal....
Think how fast you could drive if it was a 427....
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
Our solar panels were activated on Wednesday. I love anything that resembles a gauge so I'm having a hard time not looking at the ap that measure solar power generation.
The solar generation first goes to the needs of the house and the surplus goes to the grid. After 24hrs we gave back 22kWh (according to the meter that measures this) which is pretty good. We have a fair bit of sunshine forecast for about the next 7 days.
Its nice that you power your home first and the excess goes to the grid. I dont know how it works in Ontario now, but people that I talked to in the past said all the power you generate from solar goes back to the grid. The utilities then give you a credit on your electric bill for the power generated. If it has changed it would be nice to be able to have power during a power failure by using solar and battery storage.
Unfortunately we can't power the house with solar during a grid failure. The code here requires the solar system "sense" grid power and if it doesn't it shuts down. I inquired about a battery bank and the installer said to wait about 3 years as he said the price of backup batteries will drop quite a bit. We'll see if that happens ...
I decided to do some maintenance on my Pontiac that has been on my mind for quite awhile. People liked the low rider stance of my car, but it was time to do something about it. The car was so low that if I wasnt careful the front bumper guards would hit on parking curbs in parking lots. In my shop manual I had the dimensions for the front coil springs and I compared the specs to a Moog products listing. I have ordered springs, so when I install them I will post the results. When I removed the springs there is evidence of bottoming out due to the marks on the coils. Lots of weight on the front with a straight eight and hydramatic trans. Here is a link to the Moog listing.
