Firehawk

87 player bird · Poncho Master!

Firehawk

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

1992 Pontiac Firehawk - source: GMInsideNews.com
$39,995 in 1992
350hp 390ft/lb - SLP modified 5.7L V8.
25 were made with the 6 speed Corvette transmission
1LE suspension package
Cross-drilled 13 in Brembo Ferrari F-40 brakes
Full roll cage minus the back seat
Aluminum hood
Recaro racing seats with full harnesses by Simpson and rear seat delete.

0-60 in 4.6 seconds and the quarter in 13.2 @ 107 mph with top speed of 160 mph

65Camino · Uber Guru

Now that's a car!

RDubya · Poncho Master!

73SC wrote:

1992 Pontiac Firehawk - source: GMInsideNews.com
$39,995 in 1992
350hp 390ft/lb - SLP modified 5.7L V8.
25 were made with the 6 speed Corvette transmission
1LE suspension package
Cross-drilled 13 in Brembo Ferrari F-40 brakes
Full roll cage minus the back seat
Aluminum hood
Recaro racing seats with full harnesses by Simpson and rear seat delete.

0-60 in 4.6 seconds and the quarter in 13.2 @ 107 mph with top speed of 160 mph

My Trans am is jealous hmm

87 player bird · Poncho Master!

Your trans am is jelous?? How do you think mine feels? Mine is a race car that couldn't wash that things tail pipes!!! Sigh, I wish I had the cash.

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

So how much is he asking for it?

87 player bird · Poncho Master!

Want's to talk to serious buyers only, said will work out the price with whoever buy's it. I don't think they're going to be cheap.(he has 3 one of them is the G.M prototype race car with doc's and test mule tags)

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

The old "serious buyers only" play...

Anyone who isn't prepared to publicly disclose a price already knows then that what he is asking for it is ridiculously overpriced...

87 player bird · Poncho Master!

Probably, but it is a pretty rare hot-rod

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

If it was $39,995 in '92 I could see spending that same $40K to get it today. Am I off base on that?

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Astro Jet wrote:

The old "serious buyers only" play...

Anyone who isn't prepared to publicly disclose a price already knows then that what he is asking for it is ridiculously overpriced...

Hillar, I can see you and I sitting in lawn chairs at the lake, discussing collector cars and agreeing on a lot of things! biggrin

jfkheat · Guru

There is a guy in the Gainsville Georgia named Milton Robson that has quite a collection of cars including the only 1992 Trans Am Firehawk convertible. He ordered the car new. It has been features in a few magazines. See the links below for a couple write-ups on Milton and his cars. The first one is his "garage". It's only 26,000 sq ft. The second link mentions his Firehawk. I was fortunate enough to get to see his collection a few years ago.
James

http://www.dreamgarage.com/dream-garages/featured/milt-039-s-steel-horse-ranch

http://highperformancepontiac.automotive.com/20917/hppp-0607-milton-robson-classic-car-collection/index.html

-- Edited by jfkheat on Tuesday 27th of October 2009 11:43:44 PM

87 player bird · Poncho Master!

I'd guess 40,000 is close.

eeluddy · Uber Guru

I would say judging by the lack of response on both my GTA's at fire sale prices I don't think this is the time to try and get big bucks for any T/A. I know the Firehawks are rare and i would love to have one, but the collectors don't seem to be enamored with 3rd gen F body cars.......yet.

87 player bird · Poncho Master!

No sniffs on my 2nd gen either.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Carl Stevenson wrote:

Astro Jet wrote:

The old "serious buyers only" play...

Anyone who isn't prepared to publicly disclose a price already knows then that what he is asking for it is ridiculously overpriced...

Hillar, I can see you and I sitting in lawn chairs at the lake, discussing collector cars and agreeing on a lot of things!

I would never call with out a asking price

Even if I had 40,000.00 wink

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

Carl Stevenson wrote:

Astro Jet wrote:

The old "serious buyers only" play...

Anyone who isn't prepared to publicly disclose a price already knows then that what he is asking for it is ridiculously overpriced...

Hillar, I can see you and I sitting in lawn chairs at the lake, discussing collector cars and agreeing on a lot of things!

I will take that then as a firm offer to come visit you this coming summer in Kenora! biggrin

Looking forward to it Carl, PM some dates!

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

87 player bird wrote:

I'd guess 40,000 is close.

Then he is dreaming in technicolour! I would say that if you could find the absolute hard core early Firehawk collector who had to have the car for it's "historical significance", you might, I emphasize might, be able to get something like $25K at B-J or Mecum, around here it is a $15K car at best. Here's why.

1) Third gens, no matter what has been done to them, just don't bring big bucks. Maybe that will change some day in future, but that is the reality today.

2) The performance is nothing spectacular by today's standards. Take any 4th gen F body with an LS motor, do heads, cam, exhaust and tuning and it will spank that Firehawk easily. I have friends who have had BONE STOCK LS powered 4th gens run in the high 12's. Garden variety C5s will do the same thing.

3) My own F body as an example. 1997 Z28 convertible (which I have dumped way to much money into) Engine bored and stroked to 396 CID (nice number, eh?) LT4 top end, FLP headers, 3" exhaust. Dynoed 390HP at the rear wheels. LS brakes, frame connectors, Spohn performance control arms, torque arms, Koni adjustable shocks, Torsen - II posi, the list goes on and on. I don't profess to be the best driver in the world but even I have been able to wring out a 12.8 @ 110 with it, I'm sure a good driver could do a bit better. My car is one of 297 Z-28 convertibles sold in Canada for the 1997 model year, and 1 of only 65 equipped with the 6 speed manual tranny. I have added an SS hood and the car is immaculate with just over 100,000 km on it. I would be lucky as hell to get $15K for it, market is probably $10-12K right now. Dat's the fact, Jack!

I have belonged to the two biggest F body clubs in Ontario for last decade and am on a number of F body boards as well.

Tell this guy to run his cars through a couple of auctions with no reserve and let's see what happens. wink

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

No need to PM dates, some time between when it gets warm and when it gets cold!!!!!!!

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Oh Hillar forgot to mention my favourite part on his 396 1997 Z28 Camaro Convertible......yes indeed, the electric exhaust cutouts, Hee Haw !

eeluddy · Uber Guru

" Third gens, no matter what has been done to them, just don't bring big bucks. Maybe that will change some day in future, but that is the reality today.

2) The performance is nothing spectacular by today's standards"

Your right Hillar, sad but true, time marches on and these cars are not appreciating at all.
I've owned quite a few F body cars because I like 'em. Still have 3. My 79 T/A is in excellent condition, but will still be a money losing car when I sell it. Both my GTA's are at the price point of being better off parted out with not much chance of getting worth more down the road.
I had a 4th gen 95 Z28 6 speed that was faster than any of the previous ones and that's the way it should be.

87 player bird · Poncho Master!

Still a piece of G.M history.

eeluddy · Uber Guru

87 player bird wrote:
Still a piece of G.M history.

For sure. I wish the prices would go back up. A rising tide carries all boats as they say biggrin