Looks like those of us who are further down the list of those at risk may not have to worry about getting the vaccine. News outlets and Chief Medical Officers in several provinces are saying that supplies are already running short. In the meantime we are beginning to hear in our province of people considered low risk who are "jumping the queue" so to speak. The federal govt, having succeeded in creating fear and demand, is now not equipped to deliver the very solution it said was necessary to preserve public health.
Yeah. As usual, government can't wiggle its way out of a wet paper bag. Is there anything that they can't screw up?
Someone was thinking in Sault Ste. Marie, however. No huge lineups. They simply set up vaccination "by appointment". Some business guy must have thought that up for them.
One of the great conspiracy theories surrounds "big pharma". This applies to the cancer issue, as well. Here's a timely reminder of the dangers of conspiracy theorists.......from today's National Post. It's worth the read.
Suzanne Somers has touted all sorts of medical nonsense in the past, but the consequences of her quackery have never been fatal. However with her new book, Knockout, Interviews with Doctors Who Are Curing Cancer, she has ventured into life-and-death territory.
Somers quite ludicrously claims that conventional cancer treatments are a sham propped up by indoctrinated medical workers and big pharma. In the introduction to her book Dr. Julian Whitaker declares conventional medicine's approach to cancer treatment to be a "deadly fraud." In an interview with me this week in Toronto, the former Three's Company actress insisted that the pharmaceutical industry makes $200-billion a year off cancer and will do anything to protect its franchise right down to crushing the few iconoclasts who hold the real keys to curing the disease.
My encounter with Somers was an intense affair. She's not used to being questioned on her sweeping statements and deliberate distortions. Interviewers seem either intimidated by her celebrity status or they demonstrate a distressing deference to the notion of fairness by nodding at the nonsense that spills from her mouth. I watched in amazement earlier this week as a Canadian TV interviewer -- herself a breast cancer survivor -- failed to challenge Somers on her provably false arguments.
Somers contends that cancer remains just as deadly today as it always has been. That's an argument only a liar or a fool can love. True, people continue to die from cancers, but they're dying a lot later in life. Since no one, not even Somers, can grant us immortality, something's going to get us in the end. There's a big difference between succumbing to prostate cancer at the end of a long life and dying of breast cancer at 35.
In fact, conventional therapies are both curing cancer and prolonging the lives of those with it like never before. If you were diagnosed with cancer in the 1940s in Canada, you had a 25% chance of surviving five years. Today, the figure is 62%. Breast cancer death rates have declined 30% since the 1980s. New therapies, many discovered only in the past few years, are dramatically reducing the number of recurring cancers in patients in remission.
What Somers relies on is a classically engineered conspiracy theory. Debating with her is like arguing with one of those people who insists the 9/11 attacks were an inside job; by her reasoning, every argument that proves her wrong proves her right.
It's the usual circular drill: Big pharma is lying about conventional therapy to protect its profits, regulators are in the pocket of big pharma, and the alternative researchers who are curing cancer can't get the funding they need to prove it because they've been ostracized by the establishment.
When I asked Somers why, if she thought these men were on the verge of curing mankind's greatest scourge she didn't invest her own money in the project, the woman who sold a million Thighmasters and has built a franchise on books about preserving youth and vitality replied: "I'm not rich."
In fact, a number of the doctors Somers interviews in her book are widely regarded as cranks. One was labelled amongst "the five most serious physician offenders in the state of Nevada." A clinical trial of another doctor's protocol for pancreatic cancer found patients were three times more likely to die within a year than those using conventional therapies.
Here is the ultimate test of what's wrong with Suzanne Somers' core theory. The idea that the medical profession and the pharmaceutical companies are involved in a massive conspiracy to foist useless treatments on cancer patients requires us to believe that no one involved in this scam has ever been touched by cancer.
When Ontario's well-loved chief medical officer Sheela Basrur was diagnosed with cancer, was she secretly aware that the conventional cancer therapies she would be receiving were useless -- but then took one for the team by going through with the charade anyway? When the mother of a lab worker at Novartis develops breast cancer, does her loving son or daughter watch her being transfused with chemicals that harm her body ... in order to protect the big lie?
The damage that Somers and other celebrity fools such as autism-activist Jenny Mc-Carthy are doing is inestimable. It is partly due to this kind of charlatanism that in the face of a global flu threat people are suddenly afraid of the same vaccine science that has saved mankind from polio, small pox and a host of other diseases.
On her somewhat cool exit from my radio studio, Suzanne Somers turned and asked, "Does anyone in your family have cancer?" I suspect to her surprise, I replied, "Yes." She hesitated and then said "I'm thinking of them."
If you were truly thinking of them, Suzanne, or of the millions of terrified people who are diagnosed with cancer every year and their families, you wouldn't dare fill their heads with potentially deadly, celebrity-goosed, junk science.
Shame on you and on every celebrity-cowed interviewer who enables your loathsome campaign of misinformation.
john.moore@newstalk1010.com - John Moore is the host of Moore in the Morning on NewsTalk 1010 Toronto. Outside of southern Ontario he can be heard at www.newstalk1010.com.
One of my employees got GBS a few years ago. There are warnings of the connection between the H1N1 vaccine and GBS. He is now researching when he was fire chief in 1976 when the swine flu raised its head and the whole firedept was immunized. He now thinks there is a great possibility this was the cause as a link to his GBS in the research shows a great number of GBS patients had that vaccine. GBS guillian barre syndrome paralyzed this fellow for a whole year and scared us all. He did recover , but most don't. Another one of those autoimmune diseases you don't want to get.
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My daughter in law took our grandaughter [1yr old] for her shot & her doctor told her that the shots are about 2 wks too late, the swine flu has already "peaked" Let's hear it for both our Goverments for "being right on top of this" & having an orderly plan for getting the population vaccinated [said tongue in cheek] Pete
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My 35 year old son-in-law (father of 4 girls) was rushed to Waterloo Hospital by ambulance 4 hours ago Worked a shift at Cami (nights)and was sleeping today. Woke up in extreme stomach pain Stacy called 911 and away he went! Anyway, there are doing tests. thought it might be kidney stone, but pain is too high.. Checking for anuresum.. The Doctor was happy to see someone w/o H1N1.... He was working in a area full of chemicals last two days hope they find something simple
I have been sitting here praying for him. He's such a great Dad to my 4 Grand Girls! Stacy just called, and the Doctor watched a Kidney stone, move into his bladder!!! Watched it on CAT scan though it was cool.. PTL He (Steve) thought he was going to die.. I had a uriatic (spelling) in 05 and for 55 days in 07 Most pain know to man.. Like a permanent pain from hitting the "boys"... Most pregnant women, who have passed a stone, say it worse than giving birth. With the latest news, last week, He thought he was a goner.. Thank you so much for thinking of me, and him, On this Halloween night. I believe in Super Natural powers! The God Kind
I'd missed this thread news but am happy your lad is Ok Carl..
Prayer is a powerful thing!.
Ditto, just opened this thread for only the second time since it was first started. Glad to hear all is well. The brother of a good friend in Calgary is now in an induced coma with kidney issues and fluid on the lungs, as a result of H1N1. 35 year old lad, 6'5", 300 lbs. Not doing well at all...
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The brother of a good friend in Calgary is now in an induced coma with kidney issues and fluid on the lungs, as a result of H1N1. 35 year old lad, 6'5", 300 lbs. Not doing well at all...
Would you mind giving his first name if you have it?
As stated, prayer is a powerful thing.
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It's Tim. On behalf of his family, thanks for asking.
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"So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think... The good outnumber you, and we always will." Patton Oswalt
Worked a shift at Cami (nights)and was sleeping today. Woke up in extreme stomach pain Stacy called 911 and away he went! Anyway, there are doing tests. thought it might be kidney stone, but pain is too high.. Checking for anuresum.. The Doctor was happy to see someone w/o H1N1.... He was working in a area full of chemicals last two days hope they find something simple
for him. He's such a great Dad to my 4 Grand Girls! Stacy just called, and the Doctor watched a Kidney stone, move into his bladder!!! Watched it on CAT scan though it was cool.. PTL He (Steve) thought he was going to die.. I had a uriatic (spelling) in 05 and for 55 days in 07
Most pain know to man.. Like a permanent pain from hitting the "boys"... Most pregnant women, who have passed a stone, say it worse than giving birth. With the latest news, last week, He thought he was a goner.. Thank you so much for thinking of me, and him, On this Halloween night. I believe in Super Natural powers! The God Kind 
Amen! He's the son, I never had... now I can go to bed...
