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Anyone that owns a 1967 beaumont either has a broken turn signal switch, or has had major grief trying to fix it.

This is going to be complicated to explain, but if you own a 67 beaumont, you will want to stay tuned.

If you have had your switch out, you will know that it is manufactured by a company called BOYNE or BCM and is PINK in color with a busted off totally broken red cam that the signal arm attaches to.
SOUND FAMILIAR?  if it does, keep reading.

If you have ever tried to buy a new Beaumont signal switch, you have probalby had major difficulty finding the right one, because the Chevelle uses a different switch
that is made by delco remy and is WHITE or BLACK in color.

It turns out that the corvettes and corvairs in 1967 use the same switch.  You can buy it new for over 100 dollars, and it is the same poor design that will probalby break again. and you will have to order it out of the states and it will be a big hassel, etc, etc.  but if you are happy to leave it at that, then stop reading
If you want a permanent fix with readily available parts, keep reading.

Dispite the MAJOR differences between the 2 style of switch(boyne and Delco-remy), they ARE interchangable with a bit of elbow grease.

This article explains it best.
(when you read it-replace the word "Corvair" with "Beaumont")
http://www.corvairkid.com/67-9signal.htm

After reading the article, i figured i would take my spare chevelle colunm apart and try the conversion.
Worked PERFECT, now my beaumont has an indestructable Delco remy switch that  will last for years, and if it does break, parts are easy to find at the parts store, and cheap.  And on a side note 1967-72 chevy trucks use the same switch.  very easy to find in junkyards.


I know this has all been hard to follow, but if you have a 67 beaumont with a PINK turnsignal switch that is broken, i recomend STRONGLY that you do this conversion.

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Very cool Dave. I don't even own a '67 - '69 Beaumont, but I find this kind of stuff very interesting.
Do you know any tips/tricks for '64 Parisiennes? : )

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I find this article extremely interesting as I just tried to installl a new from NPD signal switch in my 66 ElCamino. The sig switch replacement does not fit the mounting screw bosses on the original housing so I put it all back together with the original one. The new one has the plastic cancelling cams too. Not sure what to do next?

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The 66 should be a totally different design though, right?

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yup..............   the switch   has 2 fonctions   , just  slightly  pres it down  or up   without the click  and  that function was to pass lanes without pushing it  ( or lifting it )   all the way

so the contact  to the flasher would work  , or it it us fully  pressed  down or lifted  the click  locks up   when  tou are stopped  to turn   and  you dont  want to hold it in place

also  there is another  standard function  in 67  , four way falshers   ans the column is telescopic  for crash safety.

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Yes, I know this is a 12 year old thread but it's exactly this kind of technical info that makes this forum so valuable. And I'm glad my brain works to remember articles that have been posted way back when (even though I can't remember why I'm there when I go to the store.)

Thanks Dave, soon I'll be digging into a signal switch problem on a 67 exactly and I'll need to begin by identifying the switch, and then buying a replacement. 



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I made this thread sticky so it will always be at the top of the forum.

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If we sticky all the valuable info here almost everything would get stickied!!!

I checked it and it won't lock in for either left or right signal. They work but it won't lock in. 

Dave, you used a 67 Chevelle column shift automatic signal switch?



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I see one problem with all this. The Beaumont has a shift indicator on the column which of course has a light in it. The Chevelle uses the same plastic housing for the connector with 9 ports in it, but an end port is blank on the Chevelle. On the Beaumont that port has a gray wire going to it with a terminal in the connector. Gray makes sense because that is the colour GM used for dash light bulbs.  The signal switch appears to be unique on a column shift automatic Beaumont. Arggggggh.

Also, a question for you Dave. 

Did you find this issue to be true when you put a Chevelle switch in a Beaumont? Was the 4 way flasher button hole in the wrong spot?

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Good grief, this is an oldie!

You should just come take a look at my winter car,   yes, i did run into the problem where the hole for the 4way was in a different spot, cant remember how i fixed it,  we could pull the wheel on my car and take a look,  i may have welded the hole and drilled a new one  (so for the purists, the 4 way flasher button is probably in a different spot on my car).   yes grey wire is for the bulb,  but i dont think i had any issues swapping it over to the chevelle switch,   my car is identical to the one you are working on(column shift.)



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Oh I was thinking you had done this on the convertible. Better yet, you have the guinea pig patient right there! I may come and take a look then. Being that this Beaumont is so original I'd really like to keep it as original as possible and I'm sure he would agree with me.

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was just working on this on my 65 acadian the switch is not delivering power to the pass rear brake light looked at rock auto 170 bucks plus shipping how the heck can a guy ix that? the problem seems to be in the connector or the switch itself,65 has no 4 way flasher

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I bought a repro switch for my 65 when I had it because it had the same issue you are having Tim. The repro was a piece of junk, didn't work. I went online, ebay, and bought an NOS switch. However, while I was waiting for the NOS unit to arrive I took my original apart. I cleaned up all the contacts in it and it worked fine.

I think Mark (cdnpont) repaired the switch on his 65 full size as well if I remember correctly. He might even have done a technical write up on here as well. 

However these 67 switches are a totally different (and crappy) design.



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so you removed the plug and cleaned those clippy thingys? everything works but right brake light the one spare i have gives nothing at all im guessing 67 first year for 4 ways as i have a 66 column{chevy2} if aftermarket sucks they aint cheap so i got 2 origionals to fix!



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It seems to me I did that too but the main thing I cleaned up was the contacts inside the switch right at the steering wheel end. 

 



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took it apart cleaned it all upeverything working great so far thx carl!

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Excellent. You're on the right track for sure. 

If I remember right, I might have had to do mine a second time before it was perfect. I think old brass/copper or whatever is in there gets gummed up. 



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oh yes took a few tries those clippy thingys must be just right...

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So I have the 3 screws totally loose, the wiring harness pulled up enough to pull the switch up and get the snap ring out. I still can't get this piece pulled up. What am I missing?

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is that piece from the boyne switch or the guide switch?   they have to be matched, because the 3 screw pattern is different between the 2 brands



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I don't have it out yet but the car has the Boyne switch. From what I read in that Corvair article I will be able to make it work for the Guide switch?

But first I have to figure out how to pull it out!

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When I bought my 68 SD the turn signal didn't work. Not knowing that the Chevelle switch would not work I bought one from a local Chevy dealership. That was a waste of $80. At the time the Boyne switch was not reproduced. I ended up buying a NOS Boyne switch and installed it. That was 16-17 years ago.

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