There has always been laws regarding excessive noise! You mean to tell me that someone would actually object to, a old guy like me, having upgraded exhaust????
I'll gladly take the ticket the day the Officer can show me that he written one for Harleys, not bashing bikes, BUT my 3" exhaust with race bottles on my 454 coupe is not nearly as loud !
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Here is a artical from the Winnipeg free press about possibly a noise bylaw for bikes, but you know that will probably expand to cars;
Ready, set -- quiet your engines, Winnipeggers.
A recent precedent-setting ruling by Edmonton's Police Commission could affect how Winnipeg motorcyclists outfit their bikes.
Last Thursday, the Edmonton Police Commission passed a bylaw amendment that will allow officers to ticket any motorcycle noisier than 92 decibels when idling.
A $250 ticket will issued to the offending rider, in an attempt to cut down on noise pollution. Edmonton's bylaw is the first of its kind in Canada, and Winnipeg has shown interest in enacting a bylaw of its own.
"It's definitely something we're pursuing right now," said Staff Sgt. Mark Hodgson of the Winnipeg Police Service's central traffic unit. "But we're looking at something a bit more comprehensive than Edmonton's amendment."
After pulling over a motorcycle, police will be able to measure sound levels with a simple hand-held recording device positioned at a 45-degree angle 50 centimetres away from the bike.
Winnipeg police have already tested sound recorders that would be used for this new system.
Hodgson said it's the objective nature of the test that makes it so effective.
"This kind of quantitative data is what the courts are looking for," said Hodgson. "If we can measure sound like we measure speed, it could cut down on a lot of issues. It is no longer at the discretion of the officer."
While lower sound levels might be good for residents, some motorcycle enthusiasts are less than pleased.
"I just wonder how they're even going to be able to enforce this?," said Ted Hector, owner of Thunder Road Motorcycles Inc. "It feels like it's a bit of a shakedown. And noise levels can vary from model to model."
Hector was also concerned with what type of bikes might be affected by the fine, as older vintage motorcycles can have louder-sounding engines.
Bob Ramsay, president of the Motorcycle and Moped Industry Council of Canada is involved with testing motorcycle noise levels. Ramsay assured motorcyclists only bikes outfitted with aftermarket parts will be affected by the noise constraints.
"All the various makes and models must meet the federal guidelines before they are sold," said Ramsay. "Any motorcycle that has gone through federal standards should not have an idling decibel louder than 92, even vintage bikes."
As an illustrative example, 92 dB compares roughly to the sound of a lawn mower.
Annoying yes, but not enough to cause serious damage, according to a Winnipeg audiologist. "You would have to sit directly beside the motorcycle for eight hours at 92 dB to receive any long-term hearing loss," said Jason Kemp, audiologist at the Kemp Hearing Centre.
Whether Winnipeg police are concerned with hearing damage, or merely disturbances to general noise levels, it may be awhile before motorcyclists or restless sleepers have some reprieve.
"We tend to be quite cautious in Winnipeg when enacting new bylaws," said Hodgson. "There are a lot of things on the table, and right now this might not be at the top of the agenda."
britt.harvey@freepress.mb.ca
Degrees of loudness
Winnipeg motorcyclists may eventually be penalized for idling-noise levels above 92 dB. If you were wondering just how loud 92 dB is, here is a chart of some sounds that may compare.
140 dB -- firearms, air raid siren, jet engine
130 dB -- jackhammer
120 dB -- jet plane takeoff
100 dB -- snowmobile, chain saw, pneumatic drill
90 dB -- lawn mower, shop tools, truck traffic, subway
80 dB -- alarm clock, busy street
70 dB -- busy traffic, vacuum cleaner
60 dB -- conversation, dishwasher
-- Source: American Speech-Language-Hearing Association
Republished from the Winnipeg Free Press print edition June 8, 2010 B2
heard about that edmonton thing yesterday.Yep,it all starts somewhere and the next thing you knosw your testing your car for noise levels and yer gettin fines and paying money for mufflers and tickets and the control freaks are sucking the life out of you.And thats just the start!
No need for laws if every human being had the same level of respect for each other.... Pretty difficult to police noise in my opinion and my thoughts are that we have plenty of bigger issues in this country to keep the police busy.
After pulling over a motorcycle, police will be able to measure sound levels with a simple hand-held recording device positioned at a 45-degree angle 50 centimetres away from the bike.
They are going to place this device 20 inches away from a running motorcycle? What member of the public would be placing their ear 20 inches away from a running motorcycle? Maybe just the owner or mechanic would while working on the bike!
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They dont even plan on measuring here, just a judgement call. I have full 3" pipes and flowmasters going on this weekend. Facebook has a petition, and this is what it says below.
Police Chief Barry MacKnight and Insp. Gary Forward earlier this week issued a public warning that police intend to clamp down on excessive vehicle noise - from vehicles of all types - next spring.
"We fear that if police don't rely on an impartial measurement of noise, such as rating decibels, then the test for breaking the law is purely subjective and that's unfair. Forward told the city's public-safety committee that using a decibel meter for checking noise isn't an option for police because the surrounding noise that would be generated by vehicles in the same vicinity on a street or highway would skew the results." daily gleaner
We ask that a rule like this may not be implemented by Fredericton Police until they have a fair means of measuring noise pollution (aka..aftermarket exhaust systems), which is not subjective and is fair to all parties involved. Quite the contrary to comments made in the Daily Gleaner comments section, an aftermarket exhaust system does enhance the overall performance of a motor vehicle, and is not simple for an increase in noise
i think the tickets are 250 a pop, and the special divices cost the cops 80 grand from a supplier the hand held from radio shack and a lot less you know its a money grab
The way the cops & M.O.E. [Ministry of Enviroment] have been hitting the cars & trucks [old & newer] for heavy duty fines, I wouldn't be surprised if old Premier "DAD" Mc Goofy doesn't bring in a yearly saftey checks, for another TAX GRAB or sorry a FEE
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I'll take the flowmasters off my car and put the factory chambered exhaust back on. What kind of judgement call would that be? What about factory sidepipes on a Corvette?
Never forget canadas biggest criminal organization wants more of your money and they will try again and again to steal it . I love our goverment so much and nomatter what any of them say to get elected they just lie to steal later .
All they want is to rid the planet of every old car so we keep buying new to help the goverment run automotive bussnesses .