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any one here know what transmission , in 1964, was matched to the 409 425 HP engine on a Pontiac Parisienne?
i found a date correct completely reburbished 409 425 HP engine and i would like to know if my automatic powerglide transmission could work

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The powerglide would have the same internals as a big block Corvette powerglide. Yours would turn to mush in a hurry.

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Ok so what else can be bolted up to a 348 409? Will say a turbo 350 just bolt on?

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Yes, but a turbo 400 would hold up better and longer.  A 700R4 would give you an overdriven top gear. Built properly, of course!

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ahhhh,, the glide will handle gobs of power, a freshening up with some upgraded parts , and it will easily handle the 409. My friend runs a 585 HP BBC in his race car with a glide.

an overdrive would be nice,, but it's not like this is your commuter car??

I'd lay dollars on the stock glide in your 64 will hold up. Unless you go to the other end and start correcting and adding traction control and upgrades...lets be honest here,, the only way things break is when they become the weak link.....
the only thing I'd ad would be a good tranny cooler.

traction will be the weak link !!!

IMHO !!

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rabbit64cs wrote:

ahhhh,, the glide will handle gobs of power, a freshening up with some upgraded parts , and it will easily handle the 409. My friend runs a 585 HP BBC in his race car with a glide.

an overdrive would be nice,, but it's not like this is your commuter car??

I'd lay dollars on the stock glide in your 64 will hold up. Unless you go to the other end and start correcting and adding traction control and upgrades...lets be honest here,, the only way things break is when they become the weak link.....
the only thing I'd ad would be a good tranny cooler.

traction will be the weak link !!!

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100% agreed, the p glide is prolly the best tranny gm ever made. they can handle whatever you can throw at em. they are the most sought after race tranny ever. i,ll be around 450- 475hp with my 427, and it,ll be bolted to my powerglide.

 



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tks for the help
yes , the engine builder told me he could give me (sell) a totally rebuilt powerglide with the engine and it would be perfect for it
i just wanted to double check



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If you are going to "just " drive it smile the PG would be ok  biggrin

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stop it carl........................ lol

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I had a power glide once  

I run it to 100 mph and shift to second   never hurt my Dads 61 261  lol

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Drove my 68 Chevelle with only 1st gear working in th PG for 6 months. I was limited to 70 mph until I coul afford another junkyard tranny.

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same story, and same mph, in a 69 impala! all summer long!

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427carl wrote:

I had a power glide once  

I run it to 100 mph and shift to second   never hurt my Dads 61 261  lol


and i thought i was beating on mine............

 



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the 09 glide is the same as the 300 hp 327 as far as internals go ie more cutch paks and hevier springs they survive quite well compared to 350s or 700s

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If anybody goes to the dirt racing shows you know what torture there trannys are taking, they are all mostly 2 speed powerglides

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Why not use a Lenco? I would!

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Powerglides are strong.
Used one with vega converter for oval racing for (3) yrs before rebuilding


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run with the glide specially with some upgrades, then bolt on a gearvendors overdrive and you gotter made !

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im sure the 'glide would rock behind your big block, dual quad 409. but, the beach boys had it accurate, sorry. 4 speed, dual quad, positraction? 409
the shop manual echoes the song. doesnt specify a brand of 4 speed, but im betting a muncie.

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My neighbour has a 63 Pontiac 283 w/Pwr. glide, 2bbl [195 hp.??] engine sitting outside his garage, was for his sons 63 Impala, but will likely never get put in [6cyl. 250 now] Needs a rebuild, if anyone interested I'll ask him if they "want to part' with it.??????

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Okay here we go. In 1964 whether it was a Pontiac or a Chevrolet, if they were equipped with the 409 425- means 11.1's, big port heads, solid camshaft, dual quads, dual point distrib, dripper valve covers, and cast "header" style exhaust manifolds. They were ONLY available with a 4 speed Muncie period. The 409 340 horse was available with a Powerglide auto or a 4 speed. No 3 speed standards with 409s in 64 as far as I am aware. At the end of 1963 Chevrolet fullsize cars switched to the Muncie from the early Borg Warner T10. Muncie is the only correct 4 speed for the 64 cars. It could be an M20-wide ratio or an M21-close ratio. No M22 till later on 66 and up I believe??? Giddyup!

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Okay here we go. In 1964 whether it was a Pontiac or a Chevrolet, if they were equipped with the 409 425- means 11.1's, big port heads, solid camshaft, dual quads, dual point distrib, dripper valve covers, and cast "header" style exhaust manifolds. They were ONLY available with a 4 speed Muncie period. The 409 340 horse was available with a Powerglide auto or a 4 speed. No 3 speed standards with 409s in 64 as far as I am aware. At the end of 1963 Chevrolet fullsize cars switched to the Muncie from the early Borg Warner T10. Muncie is the only correct 4 speed for the 64 cars. It could be an M20-wide ratio or an M21-close ratio. No M22 till later on 66 and up I believe??? Giddyup!

 My understanding is the same - Muncie only with 425 HP. 



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Yep, I also agree. You could only get a Powerglide with the lower performance 340 hp 409.

Of course powerglides can be built incredibly strong with aftermarket parts, they're probably the most popular transmission for drag racing.

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