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RE: settle an arguement..


Geez Carl, I don't want to be contrary but the 73 Grand Am got radials.  I agree that all cars got them in 75 though.

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

Beaumont4008 wrote:

May be its the same as the magnetic pulse distributor  available in the early years.




No, I had that one in my 66 big block GP. From the outside there was no hint that it didn't have points other than the wiring harness. It used the point style distributor cap.

 

I think it was available in 66 only for Canadian Pontiac but I'm still learning...



Ya , I found a unitized ign. pic above, looks very similar to a HEI. The link explains more about it. 

 



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My '72 GTO has Unitized.I have an NOS set up too.

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1974 was a transitional year. HEI was offered as an option, then in 1975 all GM cars came standard with HEI. So the answer is 1974 but GTO, you got to be kidding. The last real GTO was 1971. Cheers. George.

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The last real GTO was 1971. Cheers. George.



You think the 72 was that much different than the 71? Wow, I thought they were pretty similar.

And as much as we want to deny it, there's plenty of talk about the 73 being the best handling GTO ever made.

And the Nova guys may disagree with you about the 74 not being a fun car. I know what you are saying, it didn't fit the mold of earlier GTO's but all the same, it was a nice package.

Anyhow,  back to HEI's...


 



-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Tuesday 15th of March 2011 07:41:41 AM

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i wasent born until 76, but i did come standard with hei, my mommy said so. LOL

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

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The last real GTO was 1971. Cheers. George.



You think the 72 was that much different than the 71? Wow, I thought they were pretty similar.

And as much as we want to deny it, there's plenty of talk about the 73 being the best handling GTO ever made.

And the Nova guys may disagree with you about the 74 not being a fun car. I know what you are saying, it didn't fit the mold of earlier GTO's but all the same, it was a nice package.

Anyhow,  back to HEI's...


 



-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Tuesday 15th of March 2011 07:41:41 AM


I know a whole bunch of guys that will tell you there was no "real" GTO after 1966 B

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And then there are those that say this is the only REAL GTO.....
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Yep, Gran Turismo Omologato


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And then there the GTO's Big Brother..The Grande Parisienne and staying with the thread....NO HEI

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grande jim wrote:

And then there the GTO's Big Brother..The Grande Parisienne and staying with the thread....NO HEI



Ahem ... you mean '64 Parisienne Custom Sportbiggrin

 



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And then there the GTO's Big Brother..The Grande Parisienne and staying with the thread....NO HEI



Ahem ... you mean '64 Parisienne Custom Sportbiggrin

 



Double ahem........ That's opinion, not fact  laughing.gif

 



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According to the high performance article referenced above in the thread, "Anyone familiar with the operational characteristics of an HEI distributor will find the Unitized functions in a nearly identical fashion". So whether you call it HEI or Unitized Ignition, I submit that it actually started in 1971 as an option on some models and in 1972 as an option on the GTO! Not 1974 as others have suggested.

-- Edited by 71judge on Wednesday 16th of March 2011 09:53:39 PM

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In any case the fella claiming he had it in a 1970 GTO would be incorrect.

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Agreed, I would say there is no documentation to support a 70 electronic setup.

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My brothers 73 Grande Prix SJ 455 had HEI I am pretty sure

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Elroy wrote:

My brothers 73 Grande Prix SJ 455 had HEI I am pretty sure



Unitized ignition was first offered as optional on the higher end Ponrtiacs in 1973.

 



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Carl Stevenson wrote:

 

long stroke wrote:
I am baseing my statement on HORSE POWER. As of 1972 all motors were smog motors. Power ratings droped big time. Cheers. George.

The last real GTO was 1971. Cheers. George.



You think the 72 was that much different than the 71? Wow, I thought they were pretty similar.

And as much as we want to deny it, there's plenty of talk about the 73 being the best handling GTO ever made.

And the Nova guys may disagree with you about the 74 not being a fun car. I know what you are saying, it didn't fit the mold of earlier GTO's but all the same, it was a nice package.

Anyhow,  back to HEI's...


 



-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Tuesday 15th of March 2011 07:41:41 AM

 




 



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George, are you aware of this? I copied this from a GTO site-----

Compression ratios were lowered on all 1971 GTO engines and were also rated by the SAE Net method as well as the previously used Gross method. The standard 400 c.i. V-8 with a 8.2:1 compression ratio was rated at 300hp gross and 255hp net. Two other engines were optional, both displacing 455 cubic inches. The first 455 was rated at 325hp gross and 260hp net and it could be had only with the Turbo Hydramatic automatic. The top engine option was the 455 HO (High Output) rated at 335hp gross, 310hp net which came with a three-speed automatic transmission. The cylinder heads featured round exhaust ports and the intake manifold was cast in aluminum. 455 HO decals were used beneath the GTO decals on the front fenders. Also a large 455 HO decal was used on the air cleaner lid. All engines came with valve covers painted to match the engine color and the air cleaner was painted black.

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And then the 72 info, also copied----

The base power for the GTO package was a 400 engine with 250 horsepower at 4,400 rpm. This engine had a torque of 323 foot-pounds at 3,200 rpm. A 455 engine with the same power was an option. Another far rarer option was the 455-cubic-inch HO engine, similar to the engine used by the mighty Trans Am. The engine delivered 300 hp at 4,000 rpm, and a torque of 455 foot-pounds at 3,200 rpm, with a compression ratio of 8.4:1. Cars with this engine could go from zero to 60 in 6.6 seconds. Only 646 GTO cars were made with this option.

Read more: 1972 GTO Specifications | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7394037_1972-gto-specifications.html#ixzz1GuU8KEbE




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I started drooling after reading about the 71 and 72 GTO specs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"and what else did GM bring out in 1975??? "


The second generation H Body... the Chevrolet Monza, Buick Sky Hawk, Pontiac Sunbird, and the Oldsmobile Star Fire.

-- Edited by DrCAS on Thursday 17th of March 2011 08:44:52 PM

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don't forgette the chevette!

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don't forgette the chevette!




isn t chevette 1976

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