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pariscruiser64


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O.k. I was wondering about timing.

 

I looked at the indicator on the block and it looks like this

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----A
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--
----O
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My first question is how do you know how to set the timing ie: 8 degree's BTDC

my second Question is what is the base timing on a 283 2 barrel?

Thanks in advance



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pariscruiser64 wrote:

O.k. I was wondering about timing.

 

I looked at the indicator on the block and it looks like this

--
--
----A
--
--
--
----O
--
--

My first question is how do you know how to set the timing ie: 8 degree's BTDC

my second Question is what is the base timing on a 283 2 barrel?

Thanks in advance

 8 degrees is  Before Top Dead Centre



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each line is 2' the O is TDC , you should be able to see an 'R' to the left , for retard. try about 8' retard and then load it up in drive HARD on the BRAKES , and listen for pinging. keep retarded the timing until you hear the ping, then Advance it 2'.

OR ....use a timing light ...LOL !!



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I know what BTDC and ATDC are I just want to know how to read the scale on the block and what the actual base timing is supposed to be.

thanks



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each line is 2' the O is TDC , you should be able to see an 'R' to the left , for retard. try about 8' retard and then load it up in drive HARD on the BRAKES , and listen for pinging. keep retarded the timing until you hear the ping, then Advance it 2'.

OR ....use a timing light ...LOL !!

 Thanks for the info, this is axactly what I was looking for.



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This is the spec for a 1964 283.

base timing - 4 degrees BTDC.

The spec for the distributor says you should be at full advance at 2000 RPM. The advance can has 15 degrees of advance.



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427carl wrote:

--12
--10
----A 8
--6
--4
--2
----O
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-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Sunday 10th of July 2011 09:00:50 PM

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Nailhead wrote:

ahh you guys type faster than my one finger !!!!

 LOL!!  it's very seldom that I get a word in before the 'carl's '   !!!!!!

NO offence !!!!!



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rabbit64cs wrote:

 LOL!!  it's very seldom that I get a word in before the 'carl's '   !!!!!!

NO offence !!!!!

 I went out for the afternoon to give you a chance to talk! Just got home...



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 LOL!!  it's very seldom that I get a word in before the 'carl's '   !!!!!!

NO offence !!!!!

 I went out for the afternoon to give you a chance to talk! Just got home...

 LOL.. I figured you were out enjoying the weekend with your family !   too funny !



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Trans Am convertible ride to visit my brother in Winnipeg. 30 degrees today!

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O.k. here we go again . . .

if this is what the timing numbers are:

--12
--10
----A 8
--6
--4
--2
----O
--
--

Then I assume the 2 lines below 0 would be 2 and 4 degrees BTDC, and if that is correct how would one set the timing to say 5 or 6 dregrees BTDC when the scale ends?

not used to this style of timing marks, most I deal with have the scale on the balancer not the tab

Thanks in advance

 



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pariscruiser64 wrote:

O.k. here we go again . . .

if this is what the timing numbers are:

--12
--10
----A 8
--6
--4
--2
----O
--
--

Then I assume the 2 lines below 0 would be 2 and 4 degrees BTDC, and if that is correct how would one set the timing to sa 5 or 6 dregrees BTDC when the scale ends? 

  No, the 2 lines after the "0" will be A.T.D.C...... Don't worry about those, as per se.... Use the other numbers before the 0 and all will be fine! 


 



-- Edited by 67Poncho on Thursday 14th of July 2011 05:47:24 PM

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Yes,picture the balancer as it spins (the mark comes from the top down towards the 0 mark as it comes around) making the 2 4 6 etc happen before the 0.

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rabbit64cs wrote:

each line is 2' the O is TDC , you should be able to see an 'R' to the left , for retard. try about 8' retard and then load it up in drive HARD on the BRAKES , and listen for pinging. keep retarded the timing until you hear the ping, then Advance it 2'.

OR ....use a timing light ...LOL !!

I think you mean to say try about 8' advance, load it up and listen for pinging, if no ping advance some, if ping is heard, retard it some. Not the most delicate method but often used by us old guys if there are missing or incorrect timing tabs etc. Even the timing slot on the steel balancer can move.

 

Thanks

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67Poncho wrote:
pariscruiser64 wrote:

O.k. here we go again . . .

if this is what the timing numbers are:

--12
--10
----A 8
--6
--4
--2
----O
--
--

Then I assume the 2 lines below 0 would be 2 and 4 degrees BTDC, and if that is correct how would one set the timing to sa 5 or 6 dregrees BTDC when the scale ends? 

  No, the 2 lines after the "0" will be A.T.D.C...... Don't worry about those, as per se.... Use the other numbers before the 0 and all will be fine! 


 



-- Edited by 67Poncho on Thursday 14th of July 2011 05:47:24 PM

 Thank you, I have it set about 6 degrees now and it seems fine. I appreciate all the help.



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