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66 Grande guy


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Hi guys, my brother is tossing around the idea of parting with his dinged up, not too rusty original paint, black-black, complete, original engine 65  340 horse 409 4 speed Custom Sport.  Its March 65 build, 1 of 74 and one of the 2 or 3 last built  that we know of.

What kind of market is out there (or for that matter in here) for that?

Just thinking at this point but he is starting to realize that he really can't keep all the cars hes ever owned.

Here is a link to a rough youtube video I posted some time back if you need your memory refreshed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltOk744XVyY



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That is a wicked car. How rusty is the frame? You could probably get around 10 for it the way it is. Being a Pontiac it does have less value than a Chevrolet whether all the Pontiac crazies want to admit it or not. Thank god it has a 4 speed.

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I believe the frame is solid but I'll have to verify.  I also believe you may have stirred  up a hornets nest so I'll just stand back for a while....



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Personally I always thought it was kind of ugly (always been an argument between me and my brother 65 versus 66)  but maybe that adds to its nasty charm.  I know it used to snarl through the gears with a lot of panache!  



-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Friday 17th of February 2012 12:55:40 PM

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39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

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69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome

1994 Impala SS 

1968 Citroen Fourgonnette (Yeah Carl!)
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sounds like the same car at that time i never realized how rare the 400dreds were out of this bunch and no internet so finding the parts would have been a bear but i should have bought her oh well



-- Edited by 65wagon on Friday 17th of February 2012 01:35:46 PM

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Mr. 409 [ Adam] is just speaking the truth. A bow Tie will sell twice as quick & for more $$$ than it's equivalent equipted Cdn. Pontiac!!!!! It's just a Chevy thing?????

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This Canadian price guide:

http://www.caaarguide.com/id264.html

lists it in this price range:

766371965 PONTIAC PARISIENNE CUSTOM SPORT2-dr hardtop sport coupe 409ci V8 4bbl 340hp 74 1305 4350 13050 17400 26100 39150


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A collector will pay  20,000 and then restore it   

Call GTO JOE   He will buy it to match his 409 4 speed convertible 1 of 4

 


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I'd love to buy this, but no cash flow. 

However, I do know someone that collects 65 4spd cars and would be interested.



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A guy in Georgetown Ont has one, light blue, black vinyl top....His name is Rene

 

Would be a shame to part out that car if it could be restored



-- Edited by poncho62 on Friday 17th of February 2012 05:51:50 PM

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poncho62 wrote:

A guy in Georgetown Ont has one, light blue, black vinyl top....His name is Rene

 Would be a shame to part out that car if it could be restored

 I did a story on Rene's car in Astro News Flash. It had the dual quads added from new. 4 speed, Parisienne. Very Nice original survivor car.

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-- Edited by 73SC on Friday 17th of February 2012 08:03:45 PM

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its the unfortunet truth they are rare 19 produced but no one ecept us cares the wagon only appraised for 6 bills and the guy knows what it is so its not going anywere anytime soon



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Hi Guys, there seems to be more of a consensus than I thought on Pontiac value versus Chev. Also just to  be clear, (and I think 427 carl has helped a lot) this car is in Alberta and does not have the red interior.  For a while we thought it might be the last one built but since then we have seen the Saskatchewan one with was built later and we have heard but not seen proof of another one built in April.

This car led to quite an animated and informative discussion about when Candian Pontiacs made the change over to the 396 option.

I'll go take some more pictures of it and post them and verify the frame questions.

 

Again , at this point my bother is just mulling it over and was looking to see how enthusistaic the guys on here would be.

So far so good!



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I know that a running and driving very well documented '64 offered for $10,000 in Hemmings in December 2009 never sold.

Your brother's car has a lot of cache for the guys on here and may well be historically significant. A 409 4 speed 1965 Custom Sport would be near the top of my list for cars I'd love to own.



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I need to abstain from reading this thread and looking at the pictures.

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My dad had a 65 Laurentian and my cousin had a 65 red with white guts Custom Sport (283) so I do like the '65s. The 66's do have an Iconic Pontiac style that was shared with the Lemans line.



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Yes Carl although i don't see changing your allegiance that easily!



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69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome

1994 Impala SS 

1968 Citroen Fourgonnette (Yeah Carl!)
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kind of ugly them fighting words everyone knows 65 are the sexyiest of all pontiacs and just plain mean 66 are too refind

carl whats wrong are you tempted its only a 340 horse, 15years ago i ran into a red and black one with a 400 horse in good shape for 15gs the were abouts of whch are unknown



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I wonder if its the one I ran in into around Athabasca around the same time? Was a darn nice car.

 



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38 Willys pickup electric

39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome

1994 Impala SS 

1968 Citroen Fourgonnette (Yeah Carl!)
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You are right Ken, my 66 love is pretty strong but it's hard to argue with a 65 409 4 speed...

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there also was a white cs about twenty years go for 7 grand with a 340 and auto nice too,

hey ken did it have a black vynal top and dual 4s



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how many of those 19 cars do we have acounted,i think only 2 were 400s, i know of a rag to too



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65wagon wrote:

there also was a white cs about twenty years go for 7 grand with a 340 and auto nice too,

hey ken did it have a black vynal top and dual 4s

 Can't remember about the 2 fours but it did have a black vinyl top.  Pretty good looking for a 65!

 



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ken from northern Alberta

38 Willys pickup electric

39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome

1994 Impala SS 

1968 Citroen Fourgonnette (Yeah Carl!)
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Wow another one from my bucket list ,65's to me are right up there with the bubbletops. My brother had a convertable and a friend had a 300 hp/327/4 spd.Having just finished my 61 ,don't have space and I guess the cash. Story of my life, be a crime to part out.

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so that 3 out of 19, i think standard parrisienes didnt come like this that often, and i just remembered a black o9 wagon that got parted out for a clone cs 409



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