You don't have to like me or what I say George but advertise this same car except in a 2 door for double the price and see what happens!
I don't think there's any question that an equivalent 2-door will bring more money than a 4-door.
I think the disagreement here comes from how one defines "value". While the 4-door has less monetary value than a 2-door, the value of a 4-door is a little less tangible and a little more esoteric. I'm talking about historical value and sentimental value. While many of us lust over hot rods with mega powerplants (which there is nothing wrong with of course, I like 'em too), others recognize the significance of the fact that the car companies have always survived on the bread and butter transportation that dominated the roads at the time. These are the cars that we were driven around in, looked out of the windows in awe when we went on vacation (remember "driving" vacations?), our moms and dads and aunts and uncles all drove these practical forms of transportation and we all remember them.
I think there is a lot of value in preserving this type of vehicle, and thankfully there are some out there who recognize that and enjoy the price break they get on the 4-doors.
It's all one big great hobby with many types of cars and many types of hobbyists. Personally, I'm glad it's like this.
Mark amen to that and so well said. Total agreement with you sir. Cheers. George.
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1957 Pontiac Pathfinder Deluxe sedan restored 261 six
1974 Chevrolet Caprice Estate wagon low mileage original 400 V-8
You don't have to like me or what I say George but advertise this same car except in a 2 door for double the price and see what happens!
Carl you take all this way too seriously brother. Stop being so offended over nothing. I have no ill feeling towards you man, lighten up and cheers. George.
Those who know me will tell you it's not possible for me to get much lighter George! I take no offense at all, I just get tired of explaining to people that market value on 4 doors is lower than it is for 2 doors. It's reality. It's not that they aren't attractive and a big part of the hobby. It makes no difference to me if people prefer 2 or 4 doors, it's their choice.
When it comes to the car hobby, there isn't much I take too seriously. It's a hobby and if a hobby is stressful, what fun would that be? I save my stressing allotment for things that matter, such as life, health, family etc.
Carl i am very glad to hear that sir. After all we old car guys and gals are all in this together. This wonderful hobby of ours is the best hobby any one could possibly have. I understand values, i actually do and there is no need to debate the thing to death. I know too well that generally 2 doors are worth more than 4 doors, of course. I never disputed that and i would have to be a complete fool to argue that point. All i am saying is that they all are wonderful cars that should be enjoyed and appreciated. A person should see any car including a 4 door for what it is, a wonderful time machine to be enjoyed and not junked or parted out. I LOVE CARS..........NOT DOORS. I honestly do not understand what seems to be hatred almost, towards some of these vintage 4 doors. In my very simple opinion, if a person truly loves old cars. Then they love cars not how many doors they have. It is all good Carl and for what it is worth, i totally agree with your last statement concerning stress. Cheers. George.
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1957 Pontiac Pathfinder Deluxe sedan restored 261 six
1974 Chevrolet Caprice Estate wagon low mileage original 400 V-8
Ya brakes, and at the bottom of the grade is a hard right underpass of the Don Valley Parkway, basically a blind corner. It's a tough road but a major arterial from Downtown to the eastern residential sections of Toronto.
There's a gravel place around that area that I used to go to when I was with a landscaping company on Donlands Ave. I used to haul a full 1/2 ton pickup of limestone screenings down that hill ... needless to say, I didn't have to go to Canada's Wonderland for a thrill ride!
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Prince Edward Island
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
Those pictures are 'recent" after a summer of 're-doing" the hill, & I think they knocked some of the incline off of it?? I've driven that hill many times when I lived in the "Big Smoke" & I'm sure it was or is "steeper" than what it looks in the picture!! Ray, is the horse riding place still there at the bottom of hill??? Pete
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Some times I wake up GRUMPY, but today I let her sleep in !!!!!!!!BLACKSTOCK Ont.
Pete, the Fantasy Farm is still there. I drive that road a couple times a month when I want to avoid heavy traffic on the Prince Edward Viaduct on my way to Carrot Commons. Besides, it is a pretty drive.
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67 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe, Oshawa-built 250 PG never disturbed.
In garage, 296 cid inline six & TH350...
Cam, Toronto.
I don't judge a man by how far he's fallen, but by how far back he bounces - Patton
That's a cute little car, looks close to showroom condition. Back in '78 we had a small fleet of white 4 dr Novas as company cars. I liked mine alright with white paint and red interior but the 250 six with auto was terrible and not much of a pleasure to drive. Mine had to be floored to climb Pottery Road hill in Toronto and even then it would chug up at about 20 kph. That was embarrassing actually. It was reliable and lasted a longtime though.
I had a 72 Ventura coupe with a 250/PG and I loved it. It had plenty of power, pulled really well in fact, but it was pretty rusty by 1978. And it sometimes wouldn't start when it was damp. Nevertheless I'd love to have one today - preferably a 72 Sprint with a V8 just like in the dealer brochure I have from that year.
THE ONLY 6CYL. THAT EVER IMPRESSED ME, PERFORMANCE WISE, WAS A '69 NOVA WITH A 250 AND PG. THE OTHERS I'VE OWNED WERE ALL DOGS. I THINK THE LIGHT-WEIGHT OF THE NOVA WAS THE REASON IT SEEMED SO MUCH BETTER. THE MALIBUS AND FULL-SIZES I'VE HAD WITH 6CYLS AND PG'S LEFT ALOT TO BE DESIRED ALTHOUGH THEY DID SEEM TO BE BULLET PROOF. COULDN'T KILL THEM, I TRIED.
