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My first car


Does anyone on here have a good used one you could give to Hardtail?

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Canadian Poncho wrote:

Does anyone on here have a good used one you could give to Hardtail?


 Todd, it looks wrong to you then I am guessing?

 

 



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I see it is made by the T.A.I. Wan Company.no



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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.



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Most offshore parts don't fit right.

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Ahh ok Todd. Gotcha.

Got my new wheel cylinders so hopefully the brakes will bleed this time. Keep you all posted.

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Soo. Couldn't get my hands on the proper PCV. Ended up getting a new booster all together. Thanks to Carl Stevenson as always for guiding me with parts.

The first master cylinder I got was defective, second one worked like a charm. Had difficulty flaring brake lines, they would never mushroom properly. Ended up getting machined ones, which was a hell of a lot cheaper and less time consuming. All new brakes installed on all 4 wheels.

I got to drive her around the driveway for the first time ever. I didn't go faster than 5kmph, BUT, I can tell she has LOTS of torque, LOL!

I have to assemble my new spark plug wire kit this weekend, they are 90 degreed on the plugs, so they headers will not burn them. Bumpers going on as well, and the front-end trim.

Just gotta finish up the wiring to the ignition so no more hot wiring!

I finally washed it, collecting some dirty dust in the shop. The orange peel is not that bad in the light, like it is in the dark.

Also, my automatic choke I think sticks. How long are auto chokes supposed to be running for before they turn off? I tried WD40 on it but it doesn't seem to help.

 

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I blowed up your pictures!

Can you post a couple of your pictures of the passenger side of the carb? That would help determine which style choke setup you have, and maybe myself and some others can give you tips on adjusting and/or diagnosing it.

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Car looks really good. You must be proud of the results!

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Thanks for blowing up the pics Carl. I still never remember how to do that.

Cheers Todd. If I am honest, I never thought I would see these days....cheers to this community, it's been detrimental to me putting this thing back together.

I will get you guys carb pics this afternoon.

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Looking great! Can't wait for some of the shiny stuff to go on,will make that paint POP even more.

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We really need to see this as a feature car when you are done. Your dedication to this project is nothing short of amazing.

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Thanks so much guys!!

Here are the pictures of my carb.

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-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Friday 5th of August 2016 09:05:29 PM

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Hardtail wrote:

Thanks so much guys!!

Here are the pictures of my carb.



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Can you let it sit over night, then pump the gas pedal a couple of times, then take a picture before you start the engine cold?

Then, can you start the engine and immediately take another picture?

The angle of your first picture is perfect for those next two pictures.

Also, can you confirm that you have vacuum to the choke pull off?

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Friday 5th of August 2016 09:12:06 PM


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If you are unsure, the choke pull off is bordered here in white, the vacuum hose to it that I marked in red should have vacuum with the engine running.

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Carl,

Will do. I will get you the pics tomorrow. Thanks for explaining this to me. Been trying to get a friend over who know's these but he is up north at the moment.
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Basically, when you come to the car with the engine cold and step on the gas pedal, the choke flap should snap closed. It sits that way until you start it. The pull off (depending on how it's adjusted using that little screw right at the top rear of my white border) will open the choke flap slightly, let's say for arguments sake, 1/8" inch. I'm sure there's an actual specification for the correct amount.

As the engine warms up, heated air is pulled through the bimetallic coil behind the black circular plate that says "GM CARBURETOR ROCHESTER PRODUCTS" on it and as that coil warms up and rotates inside that housing, it slowly pulls the choke open. Those three rivets holding that plate in place prevent adjusting that coil. However, it's easy to fix that problem. Carefully drill out those rivets with a bit as small as possible, replace them (gently) with very short sheet metal screws. That will allow you to rotate that plate to get the desired cold setting for the choke plate if it isn't found to be idea as is. I always adjust those as lean as possible because I hate engines that are set too rich when cold.

There is also a cold idle speed adjustment screw somewhere but I can't see where it is and I forget!

Hopefully a real technician and not a backyarder like me will chime in here!

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Was the pic taken with the motor warm??? If cold, by the pic it is way out of adjustment(totally open)! If warm, hit the throttle once to the floor when cold ,take another pic, then we can see where it is sitting when cold. 



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This should be closed when cold.

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Hey guys. THe pics I sent was when the engine was hot. I'll have pics for y'all shortly. Coffee time.

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here are the carb pics. I think I made a mistake, I've never used an auto choke before so I don't know, plus this is bigger than my Oldsmobile 330. It should take a few minutes to warm up right? It seems after about 3ish minutes if you hit the gas it idles right down to normal speed. 20160806_174013.jpg20160806_173937.jpg

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I can't get the second picture to blow up for some reason.

The first picture is cold engine, stepped on the gas pedal to set the choke, right? If so, that all looks good.

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When did GM replace the screws on the choke thermostat coil with rivets?        

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I'm used to seeing rivets from the factory but everybody drilled them out. GM offered a rivet and tab kit so that when you had to adjust the choke, you could drill them out, adjust, then put new rivets in. Yeah, right................. Why would you put rivets back in?

GM said the idea with the rivets was nobody could tamper with the adjustment because they had it set perfectly from the factory so it met emissions. Not too tough to over ride that setting!

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Not sure why the pic won't load carl I will try again when inside. Getting the front all installed now. Bumpers done. Just putting in the trim on the front end starting to look like a car again. Need to sort out the ignition wiring next and build my new spark plug kit.

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Does anyone know which way I should wire the alternator? Does this look right?

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