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I took the 2 piece drive shaft out of my spare frame today.

Look at the shape the carrier bearing is in. It's one of those parts that I bet goes unnoticed and unreplaced. Imagine how many nice cars are driving around with their original, crappy bearings in them. This one is toast.

I'm going with a urethane (not rubber) bearing when I replace it, for about the same price as '65 Beaumont clear signal lenses.biggrin

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Just WAIT till you try & take it apart!!! I remember doing those a long time ago & 67 to 72 Chevy/ GMC P/ups have that too!!!!

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Hopefully the one in my actual car isn't as bad. I'll "practice" on this one with a BFH. biggrin



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i wonder if a one peice shaft like on my truck would work, its a x frame too



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you'll know if the one in your car is bad the first time you try to accelerate hard from a dead stop. you'll get an awful bang and vibration as you try to get 2 tons moving and the drive shaft smacks up and down..

I change the support about every 10'000 miles, bearing isn't the problem, it's the crappy housing that is supposed to hold it.



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rabbit64cs wrote:

you'll know if the one in your car is bad the first time you try to accelerate hard from a dead stop. you'll get an awful bang and vibration as you try to get 2 tons moving and the drive shaft smacks up and down..

I change the support about every 10'000 miles, bearing isn't the problem, it's the crappy housing that is supposed to hold it.

  This happened a few years ago in my 60 wagon,  got one thru NAPA and, Yeah, It was fun to put it......



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Nailhead wrote:
65wagon wrote:

i wonder if a one peice shaft like on my truck would work, its a x frame too

 ........No room for a one piece in a 58-64 tunnel  to travell up & down. 

 I have a 10 bolt 8.20 , the pinion is higher allowing me to use a 1 piece drive shaft. I have torn up a couple of hangers with the 4200 stall.   You can order 1 billet hanger bearing for these now.



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Yep.  I remember,...

It was a beast to take apart.  I would do it differently the second time around....

Instead of spending the better part of a day wailing away at it while clamped in a vise,..., 

Just take out the complete drive shaft assembly intact,.. drop it off at a garage with  the new hanger and u-joints,.. go for a beer., pick up the assembly when they're done.  $75.00 later,.. a lot of aggravation saved.   No longer being 18,.. I've got nothing to prove and happy to have a garage to the dirty jobs



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I bought one of these puppies to replace it with. Should last long(er). Almost looks too pretty to hide in the tunnel!biggrin

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rabbit64cs wrote:

you'll know if the one in your car is bad the first time you try to accelerate hard from a dead stop. you'll get an awful bang and vibration as you try to get 2 tons moving and the drive shaft smacks up and down..

I change the support about every 10'000 miles, bearing isn't the problem, it's the crappy housing that is supposed to hold it.

 yes ive ripped a few of those suckers in half in my 65 p/u haha



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what 's the cost on that bad boy... only have to ever buy one .. I'm sure !



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A friend did a complete rebuild of a '64 Impala two years ago. Beautiful car. This spring he took it out and it's making this rattling noise when he accelerates. It sounded like the baffles in the mufflers had rattled loose.

Nope. Steady bearing hiding inside that X frame.

It's been a LONG time since I took one apart. Can't even remember what all is involved. I do remember having to do it on a half-ton and a buddy's impala way back when. I do remember being glad I had an A-body and no steady bearing.

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rabbit64cs wrote:

what 's the cost on that bad boy... only have to ever buy one .. I'm sure !

 $125.00. Saves on both Tylenol and buying future bearings.



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nice part may have to put in a window in floor to see it its soo nice

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great, another thing I ABSOLUTELY need!!!!!

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timbuk wrote:

nice part may have to put in a window in floor to see it its soo nice

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Ya, I'll cut a hole right through the x-member! doh.gif



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nice part may have to put in a window in floor to see it its soo nice

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Ya, I'll cut a hole right through the x-member! doh.gif

 then it would be a O- membereyepopping.gif



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I might need one too since I'm sure mine is original. If I may ask our colleague what brand is that bearing and where did he get it?

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Pontiacanada wrote:
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what 's the cost on that bad boy... only have to ever buy one .. I'm sure !

 $125.00. Saves on both Tylenol and buying future bearings.

 Is that from Inland Empire?     Where did you get that, do you have a link,

shipping info etc

 



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Pontiacanada wrote:
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what 's the cost on that bad boy... only have to ever buy one .. I'm sure !

 $125.00. Saves on both Tylenol and buying future bearings.

 Is that from Inland Empire?     Where did you get that, do you have a link,

shipping info etc

 

Same one as Inland's, but got mine here:  http://www.performanceonline.com/Billet-Aluminum-Driveshaft-Carrier-Bearing-PolyUrethane-Insolator/

As for shipping, I bought it with another item (Prothane transmission mount), so I don't know how much the shipping of just the bearing would cost, but the shipping went smoothly.



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I remember my 60 Bel Air 2 door hardtop and Impala 2 door hardtop both had the same issues. One bolt broke off. Can't remember how I fixed it. Probably just grabbed the drive shaft assembly out of the 61 Impala parts car. I have a feeling I changed one of the bearings as well, but if so, I must have blocked it from my memory !! I seem to remember it not being a happy job.

Actually, that drive shaft looks kind of depressing, too :)  Wanting for some cleaning and painting. I've never painted one, but it's nice to hand out advice !!



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The drive shaft (with the toasted bearing still on it) is still in the same condition, just stored away. It's out of a parts car that I parted out.

The X frame off of that same parts car is cleaned, repaireded and will be painted with POR this summer.



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THE LAST ONE I PUT IN , I FILLED WITH URETHANE. 

SOLID LIKE HARD RUBBER AND NO MOVMENT.

WORKED GOOD.



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here's what I did to the new 1 from CARQUEST(premium 1 -$45.00 )-welded in re-enforcement on the sides-------the last 1 bought had poor spot-welds & flopped over to the side !

a horrible engineering design by GM......a slip-joint would have saved a lot of headachesstratford spectacular 2013 two 009.JPG



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