Pontiac tilt

Leo2+2 · Guru

Has anyone ever converted to a tilt column?

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

its been talked about

http://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t47310427/wtb-196768-parisienneimpala-tilt-column/

Leo2+2 · Guru

Still not sure if a U.S. one will simply bolt in or not. The link talks about wagons and weren't all wagons column shift?

Also has anyone used Flaming River before?

oshawacliff · Poncho Master!

I was looking for a tilt column for my 67 Impala and mentioned this to the fellow that installed my 350 crate engine.

He has a supplier in the US that is far cheaper than what you will find at Flaming River or other suppliers.

Exceltec

www.exceltecautorepair.com
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- 8-60 Bullock Dr, Markham ON L3P 3P2 · 905-471-3335

Doug Lamb.

He has done a few conversions

I had my done a few weeks ago and there were some issues that had to be addressed. The rag joint is no longer but is replaced by a multi joint u-joint.

I have noticed that the steering is more sensitive to road variances now and I have to keep on top of it.

Next spring I will seek out a good alignment person to see if he can get rid of this problem.

I just installed 235-60-15 BFG Radial T/A and that may be contributing to some of the sensitivity..

I had the column painted and during the installation it was found that the collar over the column in the car which held the gear selection unit did not fit with the new column so there is a void

where that piece should fit. My body shop said to bring the car back and they could respray the part that is exposed.

Dont have photos but should be able to get some on the weekend.

I added the cruise control unit as well and that works quite well above 40 mph.

Cliff

67Poncho · Uber Guru

Leo2+2 wrote:
The link talks about wagons and weren't all wagons column shift?

There's no difference in the model... They're all the same... I have one here out of a 2+2 coupe parts car that is going in my 2+2 coupe when the time comes... And that one would fit in a wagon too... which I want to do to in a bucket seat 4+ manual gear set up...

oshawacliff · Poncho Master!

Some photos

Rag_joint_removed_and_universal_joint_installed[1].jpg

Right_side_of_steering_column[1].jpg

Steerring_column_and_tilt_showing[1].jpg

Under_dash__Tilt_steering_column_instalation[1].jpg

Sorry my camera only works upside down.....

Cliff

-- Edited by oshawacliff on Sunday 11th of October 2015 09:12:32 AM

Leo2+2 · Guru

Thanks Cliff. Looks like you had no problem installing the original steering wheel but the collar that covers the column and attaches to the dash why exactly did it not fit? Also by adding the universal joint instead of the original joint does the steering wheel end up in the same location or does it end up closer to the driver?

Cheers,

1965CS · Guru

For what it's worth, for my 65 I did the tilt change over and utilized a column from a 65 Grand Prix (US car) and it fit perfectly. Both the original non tilt and GP tilt, were floor shift columns. The only thing I needed was the signal connector that is the same as 65 Impala and is readily available.

-- Edited by 1965CS on Saturday 10th of October 2015 06:28:55 PM

oshawacliff · Poncho Master!

Leo: I did not do the installation myself.

The new column did not affect the position of the steering wheel and I re used the original wheel.

The tilt is a nice feature.

You have a good eye to notice the covered portion of the column did not fit. It housed the gear selector portion and the new column came with its own selector for with PNDLR The original selector was for the 2 speed powerglide.

It now has a th350 3 speed.

I do have the original pieces.

I intend to take the car to the body shop that painted the column and have them touch up the exposed parts. That may happen this winter.

Cliff

-- Edited by oshawacliff on Saturday 10th of October 2015 08:46:16 PM

-- Edited by oshawacliff on Saturday 10th of October 2015 08:48:36 PM

rebelrouser · Poncho Master!

I installed an Ididit tilt for the 'Chief(4 speed tilt) and it basically fell into place. Looked and worked like an original piece of GM equipment.

-- Edited by rebelrouser on Monday 12th of October 2015 03:06:21 PM

Leo2+2 · Guru

rebelrouser wrote:
I installed an Ididit tilt for the 'Chief(4 speed tilt) and it basically fell into place. Looked and worked like an original piece of GM equipment.

-- Edited by rebelrouser on Monday 12th of October 2015 03:06:21 PM

Did you use the original steering wheel?

norontcan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

There is a 65 Pontiac tilt on kijiji, Ottawa. Actually in Nepean.
Ad # 1077016362.
Ad has been up for a while.
$300 and it's red and includes steering wheel ( red/clear )

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Very fair price for that column, especially where the dollar is these days.

It appears to be a US column (levers and steering wheel look to be US) but as I posted a while back, I put one of those in my Canadian 66 and it fits.

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

norontcan wrote:
There is a 65 Pontiac tilt on kijiji, Ottawa. Actually in Nepean.
Ad # 1077016362.
Ad has been up for a while.
$300 and it's red and includes steering wheel ( red/clear )

Pontiac tilt

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Date Listed	21-Sep-15
Price	$300.00
Address	Nepean, ON K2G 0K1, Canada View map

Make	Pontiac

1965 Pontiac tilt

Leo2+2 · Guru

I saw that ad. Too bad it's a 65 because my understanding is that 65 & 66 were same but not 67. Also it's a column shift and my car is a floor shift unless the shifting mechanism can be removed and doesn't affect, I don't know this, maybe someone more knowledgeable can explain it to me.

Thanks.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

You are right, this it not the column for you Leo. It is right for 65-66 only.

The shifting mechanism is easily removed but that won't help you, the column is totally different from a 67.

Leo2+2 · Guru

Thanks Carl. I didn't know the mechanism could be removed ... but now I do.

Back to searching for a 67.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

I know where I can get a couple of 67-68 column shift tilts but I'm just not ready to invest $125-$150 in a column if it isn't guaranteed to fit a Canadian car.

Leo2+2 · Guru

For sure, it definitely has to fit and bolt on.

67Poncho · Uber Guru

OK.... So, I am totally confused on this thread and I have no idea what all the fuss is about.... We all know, sticking to the Canadian models, that '65-'66 are the same, as well as '67-'68.... So is '69-'70.... (I do have an early '80's Malibu tilt in my '70 with the dimmer on the wheel that I had to cut and fill the shifter knob as it is a converted to manual car.... Other than, I believe, using the original ignition switch and changing the rag joint on the bottom of the column, it was a basic bolt in)

Back to the '67... What is the issue? I have an column shift column in my 2+2 that I had to cut and fill the shifter knob as well... I have a '67 Caprice column shift tilt in my '68 Laurentian wagon that I transformed into my '67 Grande wagon using the original car as the donor... Either chevy or Canadian Pontiac, in my case, there wasn't an issue... Carl just has to decipher which ones that he is looking at is what....

Clearer than mud? (lol) Need pictures?

As for measuring, both non-tilt and tilt are the same length from the dash mounts to the firewall...

-- Edited by 67Poncho on Friday 16th of October 2015 08:55:17 PM

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

We know the 65-66 tilt is wrong for 67 and up, we know the column shift to floor shift conversion is easy to do, those 2 questions are settled I'd say.

I think there is only one issue, can a US 67-68 tilt be put in a Canadian 67-68? That is the million dollar question.