How many different instrument cluster were there?

davepl · Poncho Master!

How many different instrument cluster were there?

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Dave, I presume you're referring to 1969 B body clusters. I've never heard of the Fuel, Belts & Lights options, or the Door Ajar.

You are missing the ralley cluster with speed warning. I've seen one for a 1969, and here's one for a 1970:

MoboMac · Poncho Master!

on the topic of clusters......are 67 and 68 fullsize clusters the same...similar...or different?

GLHS60 · Poncho Master!

1968

1967

1969 Certified

Thanks

Randy

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Randy, I've never seen a Certified Speedo Ralley guage cluster, cool. Also, I think it's a 70 as it's background is black. 69's had the blueish hue to them. So Dave, yes we missed the Certified Speedometer cluster, here's a photo of one I had for a 70:

-- Edited by seventy2plus2 on Saturday 20th of August 2016 07:51:31 AM

JC2+2 · Poncho Master!

Randy. Have you been holding out on me or did you just google those pictures?

Greaser · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Wasn't there also a cluster that had 140 MPH sweep?

CdnGMfan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Greaser wrote:
Wasn't there also a cluster that had 140 MPH sweep?

You would think that the Certified speedos that went into the B07 Police Cars would have had the 140 mph sweep. The U.S. Chevrolet B07 cars did, plus on the 69 & 70 models they had a triple cluster of gauges with an ammeter, oil pressure & temperature gauges. I don't know if the Canadian Chevrolets came with it, nor do I know if the Canadian Pontiac B07 cars came with it. I do know that later models did come with the 140 mph speedo with B07.

The extra warning lights on the Chevrolets in 69/70 came with the RPO ZQ2 Operator Convenience Group option and included such things as Headlight Delay, outside remote controlled rear-view mirror, clock; or in 69 there were Seat Belt, Low Fuel and Door Ajar warning lights included with ZJ9 Auxiliary Lighting (also shown in my 1970 Chevrolet Owners Manual, Canadian edition).

davepl · Poncho Master!

My 2+2, when born a Laurentian, had the Fuel/Lights/Belts cluster. I hadn't thought of speed warning in the US with gauges... would have likely tried to find one had I known they existed! I guess now I have a mission

GLHS60 · Poncho Master!

JC2+2 wrote:
Randy. Have you been holding out on me or did you just google those pictures?

I just googled them. The 1968 sales brochure lists an optional Tach and I was curious where it was mounted.

Probably not in dash but I've never seen one.

Thanks

Randy

davepl · Poncho Master!

So there are three (at least) versions of the US Rally cluster:

- Basic rally gauge cluster
- Rally cluster with speed warning
- Rally cluster certified

Plus the US/Canada ones:

- Basic
- Basic w/Speed warning
- Fuel/Lights/Belts
- Fuel/Lights/Belts w/ Speed Warning (see below)
- Door Ajar

Here's the parts list - it looks like there might be a Fuel/Lights/Belt plus speed warning, which I've never seen either. I'm ignoring the Metric ones for now...

I also see no indication of the Door Ajar thing, maybe it was a light separate from the cluster? Now I can't recall where I saw mention of it.

9.76 1 HEAD, SPEEQOMETER

1 5655106 1962, ALL

1 X 6456273 1965- 68 ALL RHD - MILES

1 X 6456274 1965-A8 ALL RtlU - Kt105

1 6492729 1969 ALL - MILES - WITH SPkED WARNING DEVICE

1 6492727 1Pb9,ALL MI1 FF FXC SPEED WARNlNG DEVICE

1 b492731 1969,ALL WITH LAMP WARNING GROUP EXC SPEED W4RNINb UtVlLt

I 6492734 1969,ALL WlTH LBMP WARNING GROUP - WlrH SPEED WARNING - DEVICE

I X 6492651 1949 ALL RHD - KILOS

lX 6492651 196'?/ALiRHD-MILES

1 X 4491728 lPb? ALL EXPORT - KfiOS

I 6493286 v 1970 ALL - EXC AMP WARNlrlG GROUP EXC SPEED WARNING INDICATOR - MILES

I 6493300 1970 ALL WITH LAMP WARNINS GROUP EXC SPEED WARNING INDlLAlOK - MI-ES

\ 6493292 1970. ALL WITH SPEED WARNING JNDlCATOR - EXC (AM' WARNING GROUP MILES

I 6493272 I970,ALL WITH SOEEO WARNING INDICATOR WITH LAMP WARNING GROUP MILES

1 X 4493289 17701 ALL EXPORT - KILO

1 L496230* lP71'ALL EXC WARNING LAMFS MllES

I 6496232' 1971 ALL 'NlTh WARNING LAMPS - MILES

1 X 6496231' 1971 ,ALL EXPORT - KILOS

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-- Edited by davepl on Saturday 20th of August 2016 03:01:56 PM

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I know of a few 1970 Cdn Pontiac standard clusters with Certified Speedo, they came from Canadian Pontiac police cars. I don't know if any US Pontiacs were used as police cars.

Here's the one I had again but sold it to a guy in upstate NY. His speedo didn't work, but got it fixed so the Certified Speedo is his spare.

409Safari · Addicted!

CdnGMfan wrote:
....in 69 there were Seat Belt, Low Fuel and Door Ajar warning lights included with ZJ9 Auxiliary Lighting (also shown in my 1970 Chevrolet Owners Manual, Canadian edition)......

From Pontiac 1962-71 Parts Catalog...........no mention of the Door Ajar..........

Instrument cluster-02.jpg

davepl · Poncho Master!

I found there's a lamp harness and so on in the parts book, but perhaps it's not in the cluster at all for the Door Ajar stuff. It's part of the Taxi equipment and might just be a light somewhere on the dash. So it likely isn't a different cluster, even though I still have no idea what it -does- look like.

409Safari · Addicted!

In the 1958-61 Parts Catalog there is only one page for Special Vehicule Equipment with no description of the options.

Canadian Special Listing #616 is for Taxi-cab equipment.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

davepl wrote:
I have all of these on hand (sorry, not for sale)

interesting