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mike667


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Hey guys,

Looking at a car now, but it has 3 on the tree. How hard would it be/or the easiest way to convert it to an automatic?

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Mike



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Different steering column, obviously different flywheel, pick up trans and torque converter, maybe driveshaft depending on what you are converting, possibly move or change the trans crossmember.

What car is it, and what automatic would you convert to?

And this is not meant to be sassy, but why would you want to convert? Manual transmissions are SO much more fun to drive. Change it to a 4 speed for even more fun.

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I just prefer automatic. It is a 66 Ventura.

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mike667 wrote:

I just prefer automatic. It is a 66 Ventura.

        like carl said   

Different steering column, obviously different flywheel, pick up trans and torque converter, maybe driveshaft depending on what you are converting, possibly move or change the trans crossmember.

What car is it, and what automatic would you convert to?



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The manual trans pedals and all the clutch linkage from that car are much sought after. If you buy it and decide to convert to an auto, you will have no trouble getting a few hundred dollars from the pedals. linkage. flywheel and bellhousing. The transmission itself is not very valuable from what I've seen.

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Thanks Guys, that is not a bad idea if I can get money for those parts. the interior is already shot too (not original, someone put cadillac seats- so I would tear it out as well). It's more a project car.

It has a 389, Would it be worth to keep a 389? or find a 400 or 455?



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389's are fine Mike. If it's complete and runs I would leave it as is.

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66 Ventura would be a big B body car, right?



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seventy2plus2 wrote:

66 Ventura would be a big B body car, right?

 Ya, looks like a Catalina



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cutting a roof off a four door is NOT a convertible.....

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I would think that a 3 on the tree would be somewhat rare in a 66 Ventura.  Honestly, I enjoy driving a 3 on the tree way more than an automatic.

My advice would be, if you prefer an automatic, then hold out for a car that already has an automatic.  They outnumber the manuals greatly, and should be much easier to find.  For the effort and expense of changing it over you would be way further ahead to just find a nice car already equipped the way you like it.



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koolconvertible wrote:

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http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Pontiac/1966_Pontiac/1966_Pontiac_Prestige_Brochure/dirindex.html



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koolconvertible wrote:

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That's only about 1/2 a REAL Ventura!!!!! (As shown in those two old ads)

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Thanks guys. I think I may hold out then and leave it for someone that would like it the way it is. I will wait to find an automatic. I just find the 66's (projects) are getting harder to find....

Is the 66 Ventura the same size as the Bonneville?



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The Bonneville is a bit longer.

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I am changing my 66 from auto on the column to a 4 speed! If you need to get rid of those parts or need some parts I would be more than willing to help out!


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Actually, I am looking to put a Doug Nash 4+1 in it so that I can stick with a 2.73 posi and have most all the parts other than the pedals and push rod. The Ventura in 66 was its own model and would be the same size as a Catalina. In 65 the Ventura was an option to the Catalina. My 65 Catalina 4 speed car is a Ventura optioned car and my 66 will be optioned similar to the Ventura.

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I figured this thread might get your attention!

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Ha, ya think! Manual trans 66 Ventura!! Love it! ;)

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(idiomatic) On an automobile (especially those produced from 1939 through the late - 1970s), a three-speed manual transmission whose gearshift lever is mounted on the steering column. Mother and Father learned to drive in a car with a 3-on-the-tree.

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