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I know they did for the A bodies . My 69 info package shows 12 bolt for 396 and engines with four speed and F40. I would think they would have done the same with the b body cars . It's always nice when you find that little slip of information In your car. My tag was under rear seat. 



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I've found them under the dash pad, down by the steering column hole in the firewall or in the seats on 66 Canadian B bodies. And I bet 75% of the cars I've found the tag for had F40, but never F41.

I had a Canadian 68 Impala 427 car with a rear bar but in those days (1978) I was way to naive to know about F41, I just knew it had a rear bar.

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Of the 9 66 and 67 western Canadian Ponchos I have on my place I think all are actually 12 bolts notwithstanding what it says in that book.



-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Monday 9th of January 2017 09:51:58 PM

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I know, it's crazy, it seems like F40 was almost standard equipment on the prairies, assuming that F40 got you a 12 bolt.

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Carl does your car have the original hood insulation still attached?

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Nope, Strato Chief, no hood pad. I think the upper class cars got it though.

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At least I think that's how it was. I can check my car but I'm sure there's no indication of it ever having had a hood pad under there.

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Yes that's right, strato chief and Laurentian never had hood insulation. That's how it was for biscaynes and bel airs anyways.

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Here's a pic from a original CDN 1967 chev sales handbook ( Pontiac exact same) about the f40 f41. I'm sure 1966 was the same. IMG_0098.JPG



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Yes that's right, strato chief and Laurentian never had hood insulation. That's how it was for biscaynes and bel airs anyways.

 I've never seen hood insulation on any old Poncho I've ever had including Grandes.



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I know 67's definitely had hood insulation, most often long removed

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Hmm, now you've got me thinking. You may be right Ken. I had it in my head that my 4 speed car had it (I bought it in 1981) but I better look, it likely didn't.

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I found build sheets/broadcast sheets behind hood insulation before. The little info cards most often found under the seats etc aren't exactly build sheets. More just line RPO info. Trying to find more of these broadcast sheets for CDN cars but near impossible. 

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67 broad cast cdn 2.jpg



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Those are from a Canadian car? I've never seen such a thing on an Oshawa car, wow...

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Yes Oshawa, thats why I was asking about hood insulation. I've only found 2 behind the hood insulation.

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2qwik2c wrote:

I know 67's definitely had hood insulation, most often long removed

In the Chevies, yes... NEVER in any '67 Pontiac I have ever owned.... or at least when I got them!



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Ok, thought I seen some with but I could be remembering wrong.

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Yes Oshawa, thats why I was asking about hood insulation. I've only found 2 behind the hood insulation.

I checked the Caprice wagon here and there was nothing... other than the SPO paint code.. 



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Funny, you would think if anything the Chev would be plain, the Pontiac would have it. Wonder why....

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Ok, thought I seen some with but I could be remembering wrong.

But that being said, I could/should check my '69 and ''70 wagons... They have the insulation in place... 



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67Poncho wrote:
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Yes Oshawa, thats why I was asking about hood insulation. I've only found 2 behind the hood insulation.

I checked the Caprice wagon here and there was nothing... other than the SPO paint code.. 

 It seems some had them there and some didn't for whatever reason. Most likely they were removed/discarded once the car was built and rolled off the line.



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I think it was because the Chevies got the badly assembled engines and they had to put hood insulation to cover all the tics and knocks whereas the Ponchos got the good ones that ran quiet! heh heh.



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66 Grande guy wrote:

F41.jpg

 




One thing I would argue with on this page---

It states the F41 has the "station wagon stabilizer". After looking at many many wagons it seems there is no pattern to which wagons got the big stabilizer. I've seen far more with the normal front bar than with the big front bar.

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66 Grande guy wrote:

I think it was because the Chevies got the badly assembled engines and they had to put hood insulation to cover all the tics and knocks whereas the Ponchos got the good ones that ran quiet! heh heh.




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66 Grande guy wrote:

 

I think it was because the Chevies got the badly assembled engines and they had to put hood insulation to cover all the tics and knocks whereas the Ponchos got the good ones that ran quiet! heh heh.


 



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 I'm feeling bold tonight...



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69 Chevy CST pickup

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1994 Impala SS 

1968 Citroen Fourgonnette (Yeah Carl!)
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