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Catalina1952


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Hi Pontiac Lovers!

 

I just purchase a beautiful 1952 Pontiac Hardtop with a 305 engine. I called her La Fée Verte  in english it means The Green Fairy , in relation with the liquor called Absinthe.

On my Quebec  liscense plate register card it is written    PONTIAC  model TUDOR. I always believe that Tudor was a Ford model. I think it's a Chieftain  or a Catalina. I'm confused, I want to correct this mistake.

 

Please can someone help me decode my VIN.

Is my car buit in the U.S. as a Chevy and  was import and rebadged Pontiac in Canada? 

Or was it  completly built in Ontario?

 

Thanks



-- Edited by Catalina1952 on Thursday 20th of April 2017 09:22:49 AM



-- Edited by Catalina1952 on Thursday 20th of April 2017 10:04:51 AM

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If your car was built in Canada, or sold new in Canada, Vintage Vehicle Services in Oshawa can provide you info on the car, and possibly some of the options it came with:

www.vintagevehicleservices.com/options.html

I'm certainly no expert on early 50's Pontiac's, but a buddy inherited a 51 or 52 two door (which some people spell Tudor) and says it's a Canadian Catalina.

Often the cowl tag will indicate "GM of Canada" on it.

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Thanks you very much

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"Tudor" was a term that I think Ford started in the 30's that referred to a 2 door sedan with generous interior accommodations and a longer roof like a 4-door sedan. A coupe by comparison had a much shorter roof and was a little more intimate (closer) inside.

Tudor kind of went on to become a sort of generic term.

 

Looking at your avatar reminds me of my old open-face Bell Magnum helmet. I nicknamed the helmet "Gazoo".

Also let me say Welcome to Canadianponcho. We'd love to see pictures of your Green Fairy.



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The list we have.. looks to be a Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sdn...

 

 

1952
production date     model                   engine      colour      location?   owner   pic


unknown        20-07        239ci      250      (470 int.)  ontario           link
#145         Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr coupe                               Dualquadpete

unknown           25-37D             277     (472 int.)  Saskatchewan   link
#554        Chieftan Catalina Deluxe 2dr coupe               spot.67poncho

unknown      25-37D                     277     (472 int.)  Alberta      link
#705      Chieftan Catalina Deluxe 2dr coupe                              ,Talaka

Jan. 23rd 1952    22-11   239ci    254   (476 int.)   B.C    link
#973     Fleetleader 2dr sdn     Moss Green     
1952 Model2211

unknown          20-11        239ci       261    (470 int)  Ontario          link
#2132     Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sdn           

unknown           20-69         239ci        264    (492 int.)   B.C             link
#4425     Fleetleader Deluxe 4dr sdn                                   Jughead

unknown       22-69        239ci    256    (476 int.)  Sask     link
#4702     Fleetleader Special 4dr sdn                      spot.67poncho

unknown       22-69        239ci       251  (476 int.)   Saskatchwan   link
#7838      Fleetleader Special 4dr  sdn                                                    cheviac

unknown          20-69           239ci                 258     (492 int.)  ontario  
#9110        Fleetleader Deluxe 4dr sdn                                    

unknown               20-69         239ci        253   (470 int.)   Sask.   link
#13098   Fleetleader Deluxe 4dr  sdn                                                         cheviac

 

5852 of model 2211 Fleetleader 2dr sdn produced

254-Moss Green

259-green



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Vince, take a closer look at the cowl tag.

I think Model 20-11 (not 2211). Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sedan.

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Did they screw on tags in '52?

2028054?AWSAccessKeyId=1XXJBWHKN0QBQS6TG



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Looks like it's been removed at some point and reapplied with machine screws and washers.

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I hope It's the original one !

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Pictures of  La Fée verte



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Model number 2011 is Fleetleader Deluxe 2 door sedan, 6 passenger. Base price was $2293 and weight was 3202lbs. Vin sequence started with 2201100001 and up. According to my source there were no 2 door hardtop Fleetleader's.

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20-11 VCould it be
a wrong tag on my car?

Is it the original tag ? Is a hardtop so I 'm more confused than yesterday!

What is the model number of the Hardtop sold in Canada in 1952?

Fleetleader , Chieftain or Catalina.... I know taht Pathfinder started in 1953

It's a mystery for me!

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seventy2plus2 wrote:

Vince, take a closer look at the cowl tag.

I think Model 20-11 (not 2211). Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sedan.

 HUH??? That's what I said.... (although, I had to recheck it)

 

The list we have.. looks to be a Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sdn...

 

And, I just went by the tag only.... which has been removed at one time or replaced...

 



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There was a 52 Chieftain Deluxe Six Catalina model number is 2537D and a Deluxe Eight Catalina Hardtop model 2737D
Is there a VIN number on the car other than what's on that body tag? What VIN is on your registration?

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The VIN on my registration is exactly the same as on the cowl tag
2201128993

I could not find another number or tag on the car.

I have to stick with one I got even if it 's not the original

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Should there not be a VIN tag on the A pillar? Windshield pillar inside the drivers door jam.

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