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I'm sure others have their own little gems, and I've love to see them.  Here are the ones I've found today while unboxing the 2+2... btw what's the right shifter knob for an M-20 car?  Shouldn't have a shift pattern on it because the console does, so I imagine it's plain, but black or silver, I have both?  Or white?

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This 1969 Impala has silver:

 



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66 was silver . probably silver .   My 69 Z28 with console makings was silver 

 

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This photo is from a 35000 mile 427 '69 2+2. Of course over the years the knob could have been changed but nothing else in the car was modified at all.



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In the parts book,

4.006 KNOB, TRANSMISSION CONTROL LEVEL
1 1969 ALL/ST - WITH COLUMN SHIFT - BLACK
1 1969 ALL/ST - BLACK

So it sure sounds like black to me, and my car came with a black one, but all these examples above are white and silver! Is there a different knob section I missed? Doesn't make sense!

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Just an amateur observance but I thought US Pontiacs had the black knobs and CDN Ponchos (and US/CDN Chevrolet B Bodies) had the Chrome.





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Do you have the black part number Dave?

I think that is for a 3 on the tree knob. My book has a 4 speed knob listed, 3922525 with bucket seats, 3921147 with bench. No mention of what finish is on it.

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And this is what the repro guys say for the bucket seat part number-

www.classicindustries.com/product/3922525.html

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Weird that our books are so different!  Mine shows black for both 3 on the tree and console cars.  No mention of silver or white anywhere.

PG and TH transmissions are listed separately, so this is for "ALL ST", or all standard transmissions, and you get two choices, column or floor.

What group number are you looking in?



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Here's the parts book page.

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davepl wrote:

Weird that our books are so different!  Mine shows black for both 3 on the tree and console cars.  No mention of silver or white anywhere.

PG and TH transmissions are listed separately, so this is for "ALL ST", or all standard transmissions, and you get two choices, column or floor.

What group number are you looking in?





Do you have the page you are looking at?

Or what part numbers does it show?

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I see yours is chain printed in 1969 and mine is typeset in 1970.  You'd think that'd make mine the more reliable, but between this and the weird carburetor numbers, I'm not so sure anymore!

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I think if you go back a page your will find what you need for 4 speed. The 2 knob numbers you have listed are at the tail end of the section. There must be a bunch before the part you posted.

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All American Pontiacs in 69 had black knobs unless they were ordered with the optional walnut shift knobs

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I'm pretty sure the Canadian Pontiac B body 4 spds ( console) would have been the chrome version , as all of the Chev B bodies used chrome for console equipped 4 spd , and Black ( with shift pattern) for bench cars . Everything else 4 spd related , is the same as the Chev's 

The chrome ball in the picture looks to be the original . ( How much does the ball weigh?...... that will tell you if it is the real deal )  



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The ball weighs 113g! I'd imagine they're not really worth replating?


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OEM balls were cast aluminum or some type pot metal and were much lighter (approx 4 oz)  , than what you see in todays repro balls ( 8 oz).

Occasionally you will see NOS ones on eBay for $500 +

You have an original ball as I suspected , and in my opinion worth re-plating . 

If you chose to go the repro route , I'd be interested in your old one . 



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Might as well plate it, but aren't they a satin finish of some kind? Or is that just when they're old? ie: are they shiny chrome when new or more like cigarette package aluminum foil finish?

For what it's worth, mine appears to be "peeling" off an aluminum style finish.

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