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Post Info TOPIC: 1969 Pontiac 2+2 originally a 396 car - project or parts - Asking $2500 OBO


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1969 Pontiac 2+2 originally a 396 car - project or parts - Asking $2500 OBO


The price is just out there and by no means a must have and I am open to a more correct estimate. I did a quick add of the major parts and the value is that if not more.

I have for sale the 396 2+2 that I acquired a few years ago before getting the 427 2+2 last fall. As it was/is essentially a hulk I dug up and parted a couple parts cars to have a nearly complete, body wise, car. The pics are from a couple years ago but the car is pretty much unchanged other than all the parts I have collected.

Parts included are:

 extra doors and side glass

 decent black door panels

 a repairable trunk pan with good braces

 good console and shifter

 have a rear seat and one decent and one parts bucket seat

 additional hood and trunk lid

 most of the 2+2 body insignias

 extra window trim

 straight front bumper and spare rear. Good candidates for rechrome.

 extra front fenders for parts or whatever

 four crappy rims and tires to roll it around

I will NOT part the car out. If parts are wanted buy the whole thing and do as you wish.

Car is located just outside or Regina.

 



-- Edited by dcneric on Tuesday 3rd of July 2018 01:58:21 PM



-- Edited by dcneric on Monday 19th of July 2021 12:08:08 PM

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Eric - Regina, SK

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1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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-- Edited by dcneric on Monday 19th of July 2021 09:12:24 PM



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Eric - Regina, SK

The Projects:

1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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Bumping this to the top. Hopefully someone can use it or is looking.

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Eric - Regina, SK

The Projects:

1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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so no motor and tranny? no disc brakes?



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How can the factory be a dealer ?

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70 SS ACADIAN wrote:

so no motor and tranny? no disc brakes?


 I have a set of 70 disc brake spindles. No calipers and one rotor but if I recall its junk. No engine or trans. 



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The Projects:

1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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65Camino wrote:

How can the factory be a dealer ?


 I will stand corrected but my understanding was that a car could be picked up by the new owner right at the factory. Alternatively, maybe a GM staff/employee car.



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Eric - Regina, SK

The Projects:

1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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are the part fenders in better shape then the ones on the car?

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65Camino wrote:

How can the factory be a dealer ?


 That's a company car in my opinion. These big engine well optioned cars are often ordered by staff for head office or personal use.  



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Jacob wrote:

are the part fenders in better shape then the ones on the car?


 I honestly cant remember, Id have to dig them out of storage to see whats there. Im going to say they are beat. 



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Eric - Regina, SK

The Projects:

1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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I noticed there is a pic of some black bucket seats. Those are gone. I have the white ones the car came with but one seat is parts only.

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Eric - Regina, SK

The Projects:

1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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Took some more pictures of the parts collected for this prize. All are included.



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Eric - Regina, SK

The Projects:

1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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Eric , Does this car project have a good usable frame ?

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The 2nd and 3rd pic shows where the front subframe meets the side rails. Hard to see but solid. Ive never had the back bumper off, so I dont know if the rear cross brace is straight.

On another note there is also a good console where the rear light is NOT broken out. The lense is missing thou.

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The Projects:

1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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dcneric wrote:
65Camino wrote:

How can the factory be a dealer ?


 I will stand corrected but my understanding was that a car could be picked up by the new owner right at the factory. Alternatively, maybe a GM staff/employee car.


 Hi... Think you are grasping at straws. I've never heard of a Canadian car delivered "to the factory". If and I repeat IF, it was delivered to the factory it would have a different "dealer code". I t MAY have been delivered to Oshawa Motor sales, they were the BIG GM dealer in town with connections to Oshawa head office



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I'm not sure if this is what the discussion is about exactly but there used to be an option code for something that I believe was called "Oshawa Delivery" where the customer picked his car up at the factory. It was still in effect into the 80's at least but I don't think much past that. So that GM document may or may show a dealer code.

The other thing was as mentioned, the GM Zone offices got cars for their staff and I believe in the line on the document where it would have the dealer code it said "GM Zone Office" or maybe it was "GM Product Stock". I know I've seen copies of those documents but can't recall the wording. I owned one of those cars, a 69 Grande Parisenne 427 4 door hardtop that was loaded but that was in the 80's and I never got any GM documents for it. The only reason I know it was a GM Zone car is my boss at the GM dealership here in our small town bought it from the Winnipeg Zone after the zone manager had miled it out.

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I'm not sure if this is what the discussion is about exactly but there used to be an option code for something that I believe was called "Oshawa Delivery" where the customer picked his car up at the factory. It was still in effect into the 80's at least but I don't think much past that. So that GM document may or may show a dealer code.

The other thing was as mentioned, the GM Zone offices got cars for their staff and I believe in the line on the document where it would have the dealer code it said "GM Zone Office" or maybe it was "GM Product Stock". I know I've seen copies of those documents but can't recall the wording. I owned one of those cars, a 69 Grande Parisenne 427 4 door hardtop that was loaded but that was in the 80's and I never got any GM documents for it. The only reason I know it was a GM Zone car is my boss at the GM dealership here in our small town bought it from the Winnipeg Zone after the zone manager had miled it out.


 Yes, that is correct for the "Gm zone office" delivery. I have a bunch of the dealer codes and zone codes in my Vette  notes... somewhere. If I recall correctly, most Canadian codes started with a 9, followed by two other numbers.



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so tempting but nowhere to put it

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4SPEED427 wrote:

I'm not sure if this is what the discussion is about exactly but there used to be an option code for something that I believe was called "Oshawa Delivery" where the customer picked his car up at the factory. It was still in effect into the 80's at least but I don't think much past that. So that GM document may or may show a dealer code.

The other thing was as mentioned, the GM Zone offices got cars for their staff and I believe in the line on the document where it would have the dealer code it said "GM Zone Office" or maybe it was "GM Product Stock". I know I've seen copies of those documents but can't recall the wording. I owned one of those cars, a 69 Grande Parisenne 427 4 door hardtop that was loaded but that was in the 80's and I never got any GM documents for it. The only reason I know it was a GM Zone car is my boss at the GM dealership here in our small town bought it from the Winnipeg Zone after the zone manager had miled it out.


When I saw "GM Products" as the dealer, my first thought was that it was a special order car by product planning or the marketing dept., to be used in advertising or perhaps as an auto show display car.  However, the June 1969 production/delivery dates would be the wrong timing for those things, so a zone or executive company car is the more likely explanation.

I have also heard stories whereby people could follow their car down the line to watch it being built, and finally pick it up at the factory, but I don't know whether this happened at Oshawa or not.



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And here are some pics of the included console. I have an extra seat belt pocket.



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Eric - Regina, SK

The Projects:

1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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That would have bee cool yo walk the line while your car was being built.
Maybe one day Ill do it when I get my 911.

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