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Need a trunk lid for 1969 long-tailight car (Parisienne, etc)


The body shop called and said I'll need a new decklid.  Not sure what makes it unsalvageable, though.

Does anyone know what fits besides Parisienne/Grande/2+2?  What about the American cars?  

I just sent that Bonneville to the crusher with a perfect trunk lid, so I'm kind of ambivalent about wondering if they fit or not!

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Guessing 70 is different. Ive got a good one of those.

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Yup, specific to 1969. I just don't know if the US and Canadian cars use the same one. Seems like they should.

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Dave, I visited North (John) in Montreal in September, and had a gander at his cars. He pointed out the various trunk lids that were in use in 69, so he can let you know what the interchange is. Maybe shoot him a note.

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Who or what is North in Montreal?

You never know where your next part

will come from on these older Canadian

cars.

Sorry for the slight derail.

Greg 

ps good luck finding your trunk lid

Im sure there is one or more out there



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North is the username of a member here who has a collection of 1969 American Pontiac's and one 1969 Pontiac 2+2. His first name is John.

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Ok  thanks for that!

Hello North!

 



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Flatla's Auto Wrecking in Alberta had two 69 Parisiennes with trunk lids on them in Dec 2008 when I was there. Probably unlikely they are still there now but you never know unless you check. The white one was very good; the aqua one was damaged. The yard owner was reluctant to remove and ship at that time but he does advertise in current publications and may do so now. Worth a phone call.  

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Re Flatla Auto Wrecking:
The right hand car in the 2 shot was the one I got the trunk key retainer out of this past summer. The trunk lid is damaged as someone chiseled out the key hole.

I'm not sure where in the yard the white car is, but I know the drivers side front fender is elsewhere in the yard. The photo of the white car shows a Massey-Fergusson swather beside it, so I know where to look.

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The white car was there 4 years ago when I took a bunch of pics.

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He should still have a white 4-door, or did this summer I think. I cc'd Clint on my email to him, will let you know what I find.

Still appreciate any leads on front fenders or a trunk lid!


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A white 4 door doesn't ring any bells, but he's got 2000 cars and I haven't been to all the parts of the yard. When I was there this summer it had recently rained, so a bit soggy out there. His helper gave us a ride to where the white drivers side fender was (and I forwarded you the photo's), and kind of mentioned where the white car it came from, but I couldn't find the car. The photo's above show the white 2 door, and the swather in the background gives me a good idea where it is.

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Those white fenders were marked "4dr sedan" with grease pencil in the pics so I assume he had the car, which is all I meant. The car itself could have been long gone!

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ahhh. Hopefully Dale gets back to you and has a good trunk lid.

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The Parisienne trunklid is canada only because no US models ever combined the short trunk lid (Catalina) with the long taillight cutout (Bonneville). The opposite exists in that the Executive had the long trunklid but the short taillight cutout.

Also the Canadian trunklids are different inside. The inner bracing around the rear end (keyhole, taillight cutout area) is much deeper (inner and out skins further apart). I don't know why, maybe this is why there seems to be relatively little rust there in otherwise rusty cars, the extra airspace allowed more drying.

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I knew you'd have the answers John. I remember you showing me the different bracing on the Cdn trunk lid by just putting our fingers in the gap between the trunk lid and the bumper.



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The Executive always threw me since I've never actually seen one - couldn't remember if it was a long taillight or not, but forgot it was the short deck. I thought it was long!

I think my bracing is all good so they really just need a skin, which has rusted through and is very thin. But that's just flat sheet metal so it's just expensive, not impossible, to fab. But who wants to English-wheel a truck deck? I'd rather spend that fab money elsewhere...

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Here is my Executive, It is the six inch longer trunklid like the Bonneville but with the small taillight cutout. 

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For comparison here is the Catalina trunklid, the same size as all the Canadian lids but with the short cutouts like the Strato and the Laurentian.  The short body, big taillight trunklid on the Parisienne, 2+2 and Grande Parisienne are Canadian only, no American car had that shape size lid.

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Wow, it must be amazing to view your collection of '69 Pontiacs all in one place.  Would feel like walking into a dealership in 1969! smile



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I'm surprised they still went to the trouble in Canada to put long tail lights on the upscale cars, but that was quite a status symbol in the day I believe. By 1970 they'd given up though, I think they all share the same tail light length in Canada.

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davepl wrote:

I'm surprised they still went to the trouble in Canada to put long tail lights on the upscale cars, but that was quite a status symbol in the day I believe. By 1970 they'd given up though, I think they all share the same tail light length in Canada.


 The use of the Bonneville tail lights were hit and miss on the Parisienne's.  67 - no, 68 - no, 69 - yes, 70 - no.



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I did not know that! That's not really hit or miss unless there are other hit years though, seems more like a one-year-only feature!

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Actually I might be wrong about 1968. I'm not sure if the Parisienne had the long tail lights or not.

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My old parted-out '68:

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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.

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