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Numbrs for GM records.


hi ll, hope everyone had a great christmas and new year. Right now hopefully shaking off the holiday tucker weight! 

I would like to find out details of my car history from factory using the GM thingummy if it is still going. What numbers do I need? The only tag I have is the tag on the passenger pillar, not sure about chassis number, havent looked for that yet but didnt notice it in the usual spot. I believe it to be a fully imported RHD car as the convertibles were not shipped as CKD and had to be special order by dealers. 

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cutting a roof off a four door is NOT a convertible.....

65 Parisienne convertible.one of 48 built for RHD export market,402BBC, T400, 2500 stally, posi rear, upgraded brakes with front discs, old proflo efi custom built by me.



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I just had my 69 2+2 convert done all you need is the Vin and they tell you most of what you want to know

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Contact VVS..think this is the site.    https://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/



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Hi Phil,

Had my '66 Parisenne convert. RH done last year and you just fill out 'Form 3' with details, Vin and most importantly CCard number and they send the data. I also rang and had a good chat as they mentioned in an email that there is very little detail on the RH export vehicles, which explains why it was just a single sheet reply. Only 25 built that year.

They sent a lot of interesting data including build info and brochures, etc however it was all relevant to the Std Canadian builds.

Nice to have and great people to deal with, well worth doing.

Brian

 



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What's a CCard?

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70 2+2 convertible
70 2+2 hardtop
70 Parisienne hardtop
72 GMC Sierra

 

 



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Credit card, the most important thing and used for money extraction.

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Brian001 wrote:

Credit card, the most important thing and used for money extraction.


ahhh 



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70 2+2 convertible
70 2+2 hardtop
70 Parisienne hardtop
72 GMC Sierra

 

 



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When I was considering the purchase of a few of the vehicles I have (Canadian-built trucks too) I thought to get the numbers checked. I sometimes spent the extra to get the job done on a rush basis and thus had the info the next day, with the GM pedigree.  Wasn't all that cheap but it really adds to the confidence going into a deal and to the value on the other end I think. I haven't talked to those guys too much directly, although I would love to have a long, long chat. 



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ken from northern Alberta

38 Willys pickup electric powered project

39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome



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Thanks legends!



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cutting a roof off a four door is NOT a convertible.....

65 Parisienne convertible.one of 48 built for RHD export market,402BBC, T400, 2500 stally, posi rear, upgraded brakes with front discs, old proflo efi custom built by me.



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I was trying to find the chassis number. It is not stamped in the usual spot, near the steering idler LHS because it was a dealer special order import. Any other places to check?



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cutting a roof off a four door is NOT a convertible.....

65 Parisienne convertible.one of 48 built for RHD export market,402BBC, T400, 2500 stally, posi rear, upgraded brakes with front discs, old proflo efi custom built by me.



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I wish there was more info given from GM services, for example my 69 2+2 sure only 632 made,but mine only came with a 350 2 barrel,how low production would that have been ? maybe less than the big block cars ? my 64 C/S on the other hand was a shock to find out it was a 283 car and not 327 as thought,last owner said it also has a posse rear ? would that not be listed on the doc also ? I will check that out in the spring..mind you not much my 64 is what it was when new..or told..just thinking out loud again lol

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GM services have been more vague in their recent documentation . Years ago , they would state engine / trans combo and how many models were made with that powertrain combo . They would even provide a copy of the miocrfiche page showing all the options , engine codes, key codes  etc...

Now they simply state the options and how many models were made in total . 

 



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It's pay for play. I managed to pique the guy's interest enough that he did a bunch of "informal" searching for me with me on the phone, for about an hour, while we kept notes. But if I want to document my car as the one-of-one convertible four-speed 427/390, it'll take an unknown number of hours at $350 an hour.

In my case, there's no way to look up "how many convertible 2+2 four-speed with the L36". You'd have to find every L36 2+2 and then manually keep track. We did that and found 10 coupes and my convertible out of a total of 12, but could not find the 11th. Afterward I realized maybe it was a wagon (with an L36 and a stick?). But none of the data is easy to go through.

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$350 an hour!!! I can think of much better ways to pay someone $350 for an hour of their time!

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16 1969 American Pontiacs

and a 1969 Canadian 2+2 Hardtop



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I've been there and seen how it's done.I would love to go thru all the sheets and put together the stats.

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I wonder how hard it would be to digitize the data. I assume it's in microfiche and unsearchable, but you can send it off these days. I doubt there's enough demand to make it profitbale, but it'd sure be interesting!


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