'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
I met the author on Instagram some months ago and remarkably we chatted and he was dumbfounded to learn I knew about this car, so we struck up an instant on-line friendship. Even more remarkable was the fact that I knew the 409 had done service in a 55 GMC pick up. Cliff even had a story or two about that. Anyway, Cliff told me he was doing the article and it is so nice to see it and for Rick and the Parisienne to have their moments of glory once again.
Great story! I am one lucky guy to not only to see 1 but 2 of these 409 4-speed equipped CS's, the latter to photo and share here.
But, since we discussed them here, the story has stated a few things that doesn't seem to make sense to me... (granted, I was born 2 years after the last 409 was assembled)
1- Only Canadian Pontiacs, Parisienne specifically, got the 409 after mid year? No other model including wagons?
2- Canadian Chevrolets built after mid year also never got the 409?
3- With the introduction of the 409 in '61, Canadian Pontiacs didn't get one till '63?
4- 10 bolt diff? 12 bolt for sure, yea? (can't read in the docs if it had a posi)
4- I know this is a March 19th car but as we know, our last documented car is a full month later so we know it wasn't the last one but possibly one of the very last ones equipped.. It would be interesting to know how many in between Ken's brothers car and Gords' car below and if after, had 409's installed?
April 19th 196576637 409ci A (285 red) Saskatchewan link #761551 Custom Sport 2dr hrdtp M20 Tuxedo Black %% Oldsledguy
-- Edited by 67Poncho on Saturday 10th of August 2019 02:33:42 AM
Hi Vince, there were a couple of things abut the article that kind of underwhelmed me too. It definitively has a 12 bolt but not a posi and the stuff about last dates and that sort of thing seemed to me kind of blather but hey it made him happy...
-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Saturday 10th of August 2019 09:00:59 PM
-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Sunday 11th of August 2019 06:05:37 AM
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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
Its hard to read but the issue says the 409 has the original 450 CFM Rochester carb? 450 CFM, am I reading that correctly? Thats all the 409 used for a carb?
This is a quote from the website of the Carbureter Shop
"I have been unable to find ANY Carter-published CFM ratings for any of the WCFB carburetors. However, for the purpose of argument, one may compare throttle bore size and actual venturi size of various WCFB carburetors to other models, which do have published ratings. WCFBs had approximate ratings from about 375 CFM to about 500 CFM."
Sorry I was out to lunch on this. I just realized they used the Rochester 4 jet on the 409 not the carter.
This is what I could find on the Rochester.
Used on a variety of GM automobiles from 1952 to 1967, including the 1961 to 1963 Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac aluminum 215 V8's, the 4G was Rochester's first four barrel. Produced in 486, 553, and 692 CFM ratings, the 4G uses a squarebore layout with a conventional fixed jet, power valve and accelerator pump metering scheme. Secondaries are mechanically actuated but use an adjustable spring loaded air valve. Adjustment is achieved by loosening an allen head set screw and inserting a screwdriver. Rotating the screwdriver counterclockwise increases tension. The accelerator pump is also adjustable, using a link with 5 adjustment holes. Four center pivot floats are used. The 4G's used the small diameter 4-7/32" diameter air cleaner, shared by the first generation Carter AFB's, so the usual aftermarket air filter cases will not fit. However there are adapter rings and street rod sources usually carry compatible air filter cases. While the Rochester book mentioned in the reference section briefly covers the 4G, your best bet for information is a GM shop manual from the '50's or '60's.
Well I finally took a closer look at the magazine cover posted by bjburnout, and realized the magazine is called "Bone Stock & Modfied Muscle Cars", and the "Bone Stock" of the Summer 2019 issue is blocked out by a 69 Charger. That would explain why when I was calling around to the local Chapters stores none of them could find it. Went to the nearest Walmart and there it was.
