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1950 Pontiac Steering Column


I am considering a new power steering project for my wife's 1950 Pontiac.  Now I may be corrected here, and please do so If I am wrong. to my knowledge there was no power steering for a 1950 Pontiac or Chevy , am I correct?

Ok, I asked,  I think I know the answer , hence my new direction requires me to alter my steering column. This raises concern with me because I don't want to jeopardize the car as it currently is an operating vehicle .

So , timbuk has two spare steering columns but they are for a 1953,  Pontiac I believe,  sorry if I am wrong Tim 

My shop manual does cover the 1953 Pontiac and I don't know if there is a physical difference. 

Comments are much appreciated,   hoping to get confirmation 

Best Regards 

Dale 



-- Edited by silver steak on Tuesday 8th of September 2020 12:01:30 PM

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1967 Beaumont  2 Dr Sport Coupe 

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I dont think power steering was available until 1953 on Chevrolet or Canadian Pontiacs. There was an integral power cylinder built into the top of the steering box. Probably really hard to find one now. I have only ever seen two. One on a 54 ragtop that also had factory power windows!, and another one on a four door with a powerglide. Here is a link to the shop manual section on power steering.

http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1949_53/09steering/9_11.HTM

Paul



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There was a member on the forum previously named Fritz and he has a shop in Quebec. He is a dealer for electric assisted power steering for these old cars. I can't remember what year his car is but he detailed his restoration on the site.

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Hi Jerel

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" There was a member on the forum previously named Fritz and he has a shop in Quebec. He is a dealer for electric assisted power steering for these old cars. I can't remember what year his car is but he detailed his restoration on the site."

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Thanks for the reply, I guess I did not express myself correctly.  I am planning a Hydraulic Rack and Pinion Power Steering project.  I did consider the EPAS, electric power assist concept but, in further investigating the real issue, the original 1950 design , pivot points the central joint / swivel, the original sector and Pittman arm the arm from the Pittarm  to the center swivel , there are just too many ball joints or swivel connections that lead to slack, the car drives OK, but can be better, hence the reason to power and improve it.  

I recently watched a U tube video by David luggendin, I hope I  spelt that correctly, anyway  he is from Calgary AB , and he has put up three video's on the process of installing a 1994 cavalier R&P on a 1951 Chevrolet Fleetline.  The reason for that R&P is because it is center driven , no tie rods on the ends of it , and that way I get to use my original tie rods.  I like the concept so I am going with it.  In  this concept the steering column will be cut just below the Shift transmission ( maximum length cannot exceed 35" ) and adapted to a thrust bearing and a shaft retainer at the bottom end with a double D at the complete end for the shaft for the universal joint.  The column will be affixed to the fire wall with a plate c/w jam connection and also include a free opening in the plate for the shift selector column. 

Of course all of my original pieces on the car will be removed ( not butchered ) and stored until the project is completed, tested and proven.   This is why I am looking for a Steering column, found one but it is a 1953 column, which is my question, is a 1950 and a 1953 column the same ? 

Dale 



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hi 

the name of that guy is andre fitzback i as a web site http://www.fitzbackgarage.com/

i'm sure i can help you i know im a been to is shop and i saw the electric power stering e install on his 1953 pontiac

 



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dale i have no idea if 50/53 are the same,hopefully someone can answer that for ya

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Pretty sure the 53 is the same as the late 1950 column, apart from needle bearings replacing bushes in the box. The 49s and early 50s had a different ratio. When the ratio was changed the steering box was marked with an X on the top.

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Thanks Gayne 
I really appreciate your positive response.
Regards
Dale



-- Edited by silver steak on Friday 11th of September 2020 07:22:26 PM

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That sounds look like a great conversion obviously well thought out. Please keep us up updated.

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Watched the u tube video on the conversion. It's certainly well thought out and well made. Good luck with the conversion Dale. Could do with a right hand drive version.

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Hi Gayne

I don't see a problem using this concept on a Right Hand Drive car, I have recently seen other center drive rack and pinions, actually one was on a Honda of a sort.
The 1994 rack and pinion is made to mount on the left, at least the one that I have bought. My brackets are fabricated and will be mounting them to the rack in the coming month.

Thanks again for the confirmation of the column, I have made arrangement with timbuk for the 1953 column. Coming together slowly.

regards
Dale

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1967 Beaumont  2 Dr Sport Coupe 

1985 GMC 1500 Sierra 4x4 One Owner

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