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Engine test stands?


It seems to me at least a couple of you guys have engine test stands to run engines on the floor. If you have one, would you be willing to post a few pictures of it? I'm thinking of building one this winter and I'm looking for ideas. I've looked online but already I see some things I don't like about some of them. For one, standing at the back of the engine to run it makes no sense to me, the exhaust is there. Also, I would think the logical place for the fuel tank and battery would be at the front, maybe down below the control panel?

One thing I'm wondering is how you mount it at the back? I know to use the motor mount bolts at the front sides but do you use a bellhousing, or just use the bolt holes where it attaches?

It seems to me I saw one where someone started with a normal engine stand and then added on to it?



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I've run two engines on this setup using my old 4 point princess auto stand. It takes a little fabbing, but worked perfect. The beauty being, it becomes a stand again when you pull off all the add-on's, doesn't require a ton of material and rolls nice with everything in place.

Engine control board simply sits on a piece of angle iron, and is through bolted to one of the bellhousing mounting bolts. Fuel tank and battery sit/ strapped to a board across the stand base.

Uses longer bolts and spacers to accommodate the extra flexplate distance.

I can measure the metal add -on's if you'd like Carl. Still have them. 

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Mark, now there is ingenuity and creativity at its best. That is beautifully functional on so many levels. Carl, there is your engine test stand right there. 



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The first time I welded it to death. Second time, I simply tacked it up and used two C Clamps. Either way, with the motor mount tubes siting on that cross bar, the engine would never be in danger of falling down.

It wouldn't be hard to make a really nice, more permanent version of this cobbled up one.

 

 



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You are welcome to check out mine one of these days,  i currently dont have a motor on it so its easy to look at.  Ive modified a few things since these pics, but you get the idea.  I have also seen guys mod a regular 40 dollar princess auto engine 4wheel crate/dolly,  but you have to space up the front wheels to get the carburetor to sit level(very important!!!!!)

 

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Thanks Dave, I will do that. I already see two of your ideas I like, the way you made the rear mounting flange and it appears you can adjust the radiator horizontally by sliding the mounting tubes?

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Yes rad is fully adjustable works for long and short pumps and comes apart for storage,  best part is the stand is super small and compact and easy to store away.  the tank is quick release and so is the arm for the guages.

I used motor mount brackets off an 80s caprice classic. the rest is just angle iron and square tube scrap parts



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22616590-F8BF-471D-9145-E4C232BF4D4E.jpegThis is one that Summit sells, it looks pretty easy to copy.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-918015



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Bought the basic test stand from Princess Auto and added from there. Worked great, just sold to a local racer......smile

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Wow, does that one look good!

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4SPEED427 wrote:

Wow, does that one look good!


 Ran several engines on it, used a couple floor fans in tandem in front of the rad.

Took about 15-20 mins run time before started to get too hot (220*).

Gauges and master switch are aftermarket.



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bjburnout wrote:

Bought the basic test stand from Princess Auto and added from there. Worked great, just sold to a local racer......smile

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 I tried to buy on of those stands at Princess Auto a few years ago. It has been out of stock for a long time. 

 

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Lots of plans on the internet, here a fine example.0D3C36ED-CE1B-44AF-979B-3BC0AFBC294A.jpeg3240CDB7-F84B-446D-9B72-40AFF20FDD71.jpegA0440CED-28B8-4E7B-A0A9-72EEC31A5617.jpeg4236545F-D8E1-46BD-A39D-119C8CCE6C27.jpeg39EE6F76-6981-487A-AB0E-E0E50ACD3198.jpeg



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Nice! #1 - it can be used as a build stand.

The only real negative I see is you have to look over pipes at the gauges as they face the rear.

Bring the gauge cluster to the side, add a rad support setup and some small vertical mount adjustment and that's our winner!



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So I mentioned to a friend I wanted to build a test stand this winter. He used my car trailer a couple of days later and when he returned the trailer, this was strapped down to it along with a bunch of heavy duty square tubing pieces. I'd say this will be a pretty good start!

Then I was in my garden shed looking for something and realized I still have the 283 bellhousing from my Strato Chief. Not sure yet if I will use Beaumontguru's idea for mounting or use a bellhousing but now I have the option. I like the Guru's idea because the bellhousing makes the whole apparatus much longer/bulkier.

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Wow, I like almost everything about this stand-



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Good start Carl.



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One nice thing, I already checked, my cherry picker legs just nicely roll right underneath this stand!

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I thought maybe I should answer Mark's comment here about the stand I'm building to keep it separate from the other thread.

"On the stand: I like how you can quickly add the mount struts and rad support after the build. Clever."

I can't take credit for much of the way I'm doing it. I had ideas from numerous places but your's and Beaumontguru's ideas are the ones I used the most.

I'm currently working on the gauge/control panel. Dave's idea was to make it so you either face it at the front of the engine or by lifting it out of the tube and rotating 90* you face it on the left side of the engine. I'm doing that but taking it one step further. It will hang on a long 7/16" bolt down into the tube but the bolt has a piece of 3/8" rubber gas hose on it for a nice friction fit and I will be able to twist the panel whatever direction I like, infinite angles.

How did you guys do your starting current? I have a universal ignition switch and debated using a relay but I guess really there's no need, I'm just powering the stock GM solenoid.



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I just went with a cheap momentary pushbutton switch to the starter solenoid.

And a lit 3 way toggle array for main power, gauges and ignition. Used little metal plates on the back as a positive take off points. Negative side to the block. Bit of a rats nest, but it worked.

I can send you the pushbutton and the toggle switches NC if you can use them Carl.

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Great offer on the button and switches Mark, thanks! Don't send anything yet though, I think I have all I need here.

One thought I just had, I guess I have to put in a ballast resistor because I'll be running a points distributor on there so I don't want 12 volts to the coil. Those Chrysler resistors from 50 years ago are cheap, I'll install one of those.

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Maybe running the engine up for a hour or so won't be enough to burn the points anyway.

I think the damage is probably cumulative over many hours of driving?



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cdnpont wrote:

Maybe running the engine up for a hour or so won't be enough to burn the points anyway.

I think the damage is probably cumulative over many hours of driving?


 I think the only spare coil I have to use is one of those cool Canadian-only aluminum coils so I don't want to take a chance of burning that one up! Points is no big deal but it seems to me someone told me those coils get pretty hot after a while with 12 volts to them?



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It looks a little less rugged with black paint on it. This shows where the control panel will be and shows how it pivots (different from one pic to the other). I'll weld the tube for it onto the stand but for mockup it's clamped.

 

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I use a balast resistor off a 55-57 chevy.  works perfect.  i even hook up a one-wire internal reg alternator, its easy to wire.

I use a toggle to power up ignition,  then a second mommentary toggle for cranking, that way i can crank without starting, 

 but and ignition switch would probably be less complicated.

 

I run mechanical oil and temp,  i just use my multimeter for tach and dwell settings.



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